EggXpert

Thank you for this chance to help out on these forums. My name is Chris and I have been working with Intel for almost 8 years now. My focus during that time has been to help both resellers and users of Intel products get the most out of their computer purchases. Just so you know I am going to spending a good amount of time on this forum and other tech related sites to help out with any Intel related questions.

Just so things are clear right from the start; I cannot answer questions on future Intel products, Legal matters or information on Intel personal. So please leave these matters off the table.

Now a little bit more about me; I started playing my first computer game in the early 80’s with a game called Ultima and have been computer gaming ever since. I build my own systems and have spent years talk people like the people on the boards here getting the Intel product that fits their needs. I love technology and try to keep up with as much as I can. So let’s talk Intel tech.  

Hey Chris welcome to the forums!

Keep up the good work. I'm having a blast overclocking the snot out of my 2600k

Welcome to EggXpert 

Welcome. Nice timing

Any news on Sandy Bridge?

First of all there is the office statement from Intel on the issue. You can read it here http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/31/intel-identifies-chipset-design-error-implementing-solution.

The B3 stepping (the fix) is currently being manufactured. They are working very hard at getting the replacement chipsets out. So I know it is hard to be without a system or to wait for performance that Sandy Bridge has in store for you.

If you are without a system my advice is to look at the Intel® Core™ i7 950 which is a great processor. On the other hand if you can wait for the re-release of Sandy Bridge boards I think you will find that it is well worth it. I would start to buy the parts for my system over getting all the pieces at once. This generally would allow me to spend a little bit more money than I would have planned at the start and get a better system overall.  

Nice link, thanks.

 http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/683769.aspx    

Welcome to the forums!

Want to help out here?:

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/681505.aspx

Respectfully,

PROACEX1

Welcome to Eggxpert!  Hope you have fun here.

So, are you are a engineer / tech or CS /sales/ marketing staffer? 

Thank you for the welcome. I am a customer service person in that I have been with the reseller and end user presales team. So I have been advising people on what components they need for their desktop and server builds for almost 8 years now. I have “A+” training, Windows training and even a small amount of programming training all done on my own. On top of that I have years of training on Intel products, so while there will be people on this board that will have more hands on experience on computer repair and more software knowledge then me, I think you will find my overall knowledge level on Intel® products should outstanding.  

IntelEnthusiast:

Thank you for the welcome. I am a customer service person in that I have been with the reseller and end user presales team. So I have been advising people on what components they need for their desktop and server builds for almost 8 years now. I have “A+” training, Windows training and even a small amount of programming training all done on my own. On top of that I have years of training on Intel products, so while there will be people on this board that will have more hands on experience on computer repair and more software knowledge then me, I think you will find my overall knowledge level on Intel® products should outstanding.  

Anything ya want to share with us will be outstanding no matter how much ya know or not since i work at a computer repair shop and 90% of our computers that come in here are Intel so learning alittle more about the products would be great 

Ok Xaigeta,

Is there something that you are looking for? Here are a couple tools to help out that are very handy.  
      

This site is one of the best for any information on specs for processors, boards and other Intel® products. http://ark.intel.com/

This next link is one that I have found very helpful but it is hard to find. This is a list of the tested chassis that are Thermally Advantaged Chassis it even has a listing of some ITX chassis listed. http://www3.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/tech_reference/box_desktop/int_inst_info/dsk_tested_source_lists/53211.htm

The last link is for helping you pick the right Intel board to go with a CPU. This only covers from the Intel® Core™ 2 Duo or later but it is helpful.   http://processormatch.intel.com

IntelEnthusiast:

Ok Xaigeta,

Is there something that you are looking for? Here are a couple tools to help out that are very handy.  
      

This site is one of the best for any information on specs for processors, boards and other Intel® products. http://ark.intel.com/

This next link is one that I have found very helpful but it is hard to find. This is a list of the tested chassis that are Thermally Advantaged Chassis it even has a listing of some ITX chassis listed. http://www3.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/tech_reference/box_desktop/int_inst_info/dsk_tested_source_lists/53211.htm

The last link is for helping you pick the right Intel board to go with a CPU. This only covers from the Intel® Core™ 2 Duo or later but it is helpful.   http://processormatch.intel.com

i wasnt looking for anything right now but all this will be VERY useful when im doing quotes for computers to customers and for my own  personal purpose  thx =)

Dear IntelEnthusiast,

Recently there have been many articles on the integration of DRM and trusted computed modules and all sorts of rumors about backdoors built into your technology.   I just want you to know this deeply concerns me as a customer, much more so the sandy bridge recall.   If AMD offers a comparable product that is multiplier unlocked and manufactured on the same process e.g. 32nm 22nm etc  I will always choose them specifically for this reason.

Also I hope the new licensing agreement with nvidia shows some useful gaming cpu+gpu integration in the next few years.   Continuing to add CPU cores makes little to no sense until there is software support for it,  adding fully integrated powerful high end GPU cores instead of cpu cores would make more sense to me as it looks like existing software might better utilize that.  I am certainly not an engineer though.

These are just my thoughts as an end user.

I heard a rumor that Larrabee is getting resurrected and that Intel is coming out with a graphics card. I couldn't find anything to corroborate this though. Any thoughts if and when Intel will be doing discrete graphics?

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

lordmaynoth:

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

 

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

I really don't think a CM212 is gonna help much with a 645w TDP 

GmsCool:

lordmaynoth:

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

 

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

I really don't think a CM212 is gonna help much with a 645w TDP 

Yea...what GmsCool said. Try peltier cooling for that setup, and watch it overheat, lol.

Let's leave this be shall we? He's already stated he cannot (probably due to the rigorous NDA's Intel has with employees) comment on future speculations. If he wishes to provide anything, you can be sure we'll make sure find out about it ASAP, since we're like flies to a 100w light bulb when it comes to tech rumors.

He is just here to help clarify, provide customer support (and not over-advertise Intel's products; instead generally contribute technical knowledge), but to be helpful.

We are working on finding out other manufacturer reps and treating them accordingly (with an official badge). To bad YellowBeard is AFK.

Respectfully,

PROACEX1

Thank you very much, PROACEX1. If I am able to comment on something I will, I promise you that. Otherwise, I will continue to look for people to help and look to the future with a smile.

I guess you have a good point. Still even if I had to have a heatsink 3 or 4 times bigger than a CM212 I would totally do it.  The heatsink itself on my 6870 doesn't seem that big at all compared to my CM212

GmsCool:

lordmaynoth:

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

 

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

I really don't think a CM212 is gonna help much with a 645w TDP 

lordmaynoth:

I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.

Well, considering the GTX 580 die is 52 square cms..  x2 of them would be 104 square centimeters.. Sandy Bridge is 21 square cms.. 

125 square centimeters.. Square root of that is 11.18cm and convert to inches that's 4.4 inches per edge..

So you'd be looking at a CPU that's 4.4 inches x 4.4 inches..  I think Intel's going to need a bigger socket to pull that one off.

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GmsCool:

lordmaynoth:

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

 

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

I really don't think a CM212 is gonna help much with a 645w TDP 

 Hahaah, hahaahaaa! That rat!

True true.

lordmaynoth:

I guess you have a good point. Still even if I had to have a heatsink 3 or 4 times bigger than a CM212 I would totally do it.  The heatsink itself on my 6870 doesn't seem that big at all compared to my CM212

 

GmsCool:

lordmaynoth:

http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/10/intel-announces-new-patent-cross-license-agreement-with-nvidia

 

For the next 6 years intel gets to use any Nvidia IP it wants in it's products from what I understand.  I'd like to see at least 2 fully integrated GTX 580's on a quadcore or higher chip.  To heck with the TDP, we enthusiasts are probably using some outrageously huge heatsink like a CM 212+ with 110CFM fans right now anyway.  

More than doubling chip cores we need on die high end GPUs that are meant for gaming, just my $0.02

I really don't think a CM212 is gonna help much with a 645w TDP 

Think water cooling. If not liquid nitrogen.

Respectfully,

PROACEX1