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Need input for gaming build.

Last post 11-03-2009, 2:22 PM by Tracer76. 22 replies.
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  •  11-03-2009, 8:01 AM 581700

    Need input for gaming build.

    This is all being purchased at Newegg. Any input would  be appreciated. My biggest question is will that motherboard fit nicely in that case?

     Also will that powersupply be sufficient? Enough of the correct plug ins? I just want another person to look this over before i buy it. Make sure i haven't overlooked anything silly. Oh and I will most likely put XP Pro and  then switch to Windows 7 later.


    System Specs
    Budget:~$1000VGA:VisionTek Radeon HD 4870 900244 Video CardMonitor:
    MB:GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R ATX Intel MotherboardOS:XP x64 or Windows 7 x64Browser:
    CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Sound:CPU Pps:Gaming
    Memory:G.SKILL 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) x2PSU:XIGMATEK MC NRP-MC651 650W Power SupplyBrand:
    HD:Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/sCooling:Misc:COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Computer Case
  •  11-03-2009, 8:18 AM 581706 in reply to 581700

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    AS for the PSU your better off with this one CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail 109.99 + free shipping

     

    Case COOLER MASTER Centurion 5

    Motherboard Compatibility: ATX, MicroATX

    motherboard is a ATX

    As for the OS

    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM 106.99

    VS.

    Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP2C 64-bit for System Builders - OEM 139.99


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  •  11-03-2009, 8:23 AM 581708 in reply to 581706

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    Wow thanks for the quick reply. I believe that PSU was my first choice but they are currently out of stock.

     

    How do you think this PC will run? I know the video card isn't the latest and greatest, but im thinking i should be able to run all new games on hi to max settings.

     

    Any other input/comments/suggestions would be great. I fix computers for a living(business pcs are quite different then gaming haha), but this is my first from scratch build.

  •  11-03-2009, 8:36 AM 581711 in reply to 581708

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    jigglebilly:

    Wow thanks for the quick reply. I believe that PSU was my first choice but they are currently out of stock.

    not a problem, put it on auto notify it's a tier 2 PSU for one and second it's a single +12v rail which is better.

     

    jigglebilly:
      

    How do you think this PC will run? I know the video card isn't the latest and greatest, but im thinking i should be able to run all new games on hi to max settings.

    The 4870 is actually a great card but of course you will never be able to fit a 10.5 and above card in that case so you will be fine. As for running games who knows there is no list you provided.

     

    jigglebilly:
      

    Any other input/comments/suggestions would be great. I fix computers for a living(business pcs are quite different then gaming haha), but this is my first from scratch build.

    Not really considering that yes the PSU, CPU and the GPU are upped a bit from a standard user. But take in to consideration that most gamers will use the same style of HDD, optical, and motherboard as any other end-user.


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  •  11-03-2009, 8:51 AM 581717 in reply to 581708

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    i think i might spend an extra $100 and get this card instead

    ASUS EAH5850/G/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity

     

    What do you guys think about that? Should be a pretty good performance upgrade.

     

    I'm not sure if its bigger then 10.5.

  •  11-03-2009, 9:06 AM 581721 in reply to 581717

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    Umm nope that will not work get a larger case like the Stacker 830, Cosmos 1000, Cosmos 1100 ect..


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  •  11-03-2009, 9:19 AM 581723 in reply to 581721

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    ok cool. Gonna go with the cosmos 1000.

    I really appreaciate all your help.

     This setup should be able to run stuff like Dirt 2, Crysis, Guitar Hero 3, Diablo 3(even though we don't know min requirements),Modern Warfare 1/2 etc, all on hi-max settings?

    Eventually I will want to upgrade the ram to 16 gb.

  •  11-03-2009, 9:27 AM 581725 in reply to 581717

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

      I have been considering a new build around your budget.  I decided to wait till January.

    but here are a few ideas of mine.

    1: the I5 750 is the only cpu intel has in the $125 to $250 range worth purchasing.

    paired wt a solid entry level mobo from Gigabyte or Asus it increases your cost by about 30 bucks

    2: DDR2 is becoming an old standard, as such it is overpriced. (time to move to DDR3)

    3: the HD 5770 is very capable wt out using a lot of juice.  (Save money on a Psu)

        I suggest corsairs 550VX when back in stock

            HD 5770 is a good choice until Nvidia comes out wt something to compete wt ATI's 5000 series.

            Note: ATI just bumped up their 5000 series pricing due to demand and

                    "a complete lack of competition from the green goblin"

     

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  •  11-03-2009, 9:29 AM 581726 in reply to 581723

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    OK good choice on the case.

    Not a problem

    Yes, it will When you build it go here http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/ and see if the games will run.

    Why 16GB of RAM 8 is even more than enough for everything, hell right now till next week I have been running 4GB of RAM and never got it past 60% usage with both Windows XP, Vista and 7. There is no need for 16GB at all unless you are running a small server.


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  •  11-03-2009, 9:36 AM 581727 in reply to 581725

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    cool. I found this.

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK - Retail Item #: N82E16820231189

     

    Will that be compatible with the motherboard i have? or will i need a different MB?

     

    well going with the more is better 16>8. I wasn't aware how extensive new games used RAM.  should i go with a different MB? i picked that one as it 4 slots and a max of 16 gigs of RAM. if im only going to put 8gb should i get a cheaper MB?

  •  11-03-2009, 9:42 AM 581728 in reply to 581727

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    just a suggestion:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

    I5 750

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128401

    GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275

    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

       A few bench marks around the web have shown the bennys wt 3 to 4gb's of ram.

    after that only power users see any real major benefits.

  •  11-03-2009, 9:58 AM 581733 in reply to 581728

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    That is a great suggestion there FreightShaker Yes

     

    well going with the more is better 16>8. I wasn't aware how extensive new games used RAM.  should i go with a different MB? i picked that one as it 4 slots and a max of 16 gigs of RAM. if im only going to put 8gb should i get a cheaper MB?

    There not that extensive at all really. I can run several new games without a problem on my system. The 16GB mobo that you picked is just fine. As for games they are more CPU and GPU intensive more so then RAM today. I have 41 games installed some old like CS 1.6 but also I can play H.A.W.X,, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Need for Speed: Shift, Assassins Creed, without lag, and the RAM will not go above 60% on my system.

    Here is a brief run down of the system.

    CPU: AMD Dual core 6000+

    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4

    RAM: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

    PSU: Thermaltake 750w 60Amp mod

    Case: Stacker 830

    HDDs 2X 1TB Seagate 7200.11 and 1X WD 500GB Carver

    Sound: X-Fi Fatality

    GPU: 9800GTX

    So if I can run those games on this system without an issue then I am sure you can do it as well.

     

     


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  •  11-03-2009, 10:04 AM 581735 in reply to 581733

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    will this MOBO be good with the I5 750, and 8gb of the G.Skill DDR3 1333 RAM i listed earlier? I couldn't find a different between that RAM and the Ripjaw series.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128406R

    GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

    Also should i worry about buying an "open box" item from Newegg?

     

    Thos are my last questions. After that I think i'll have my build finalized. Just gotta wait on the PSU and the GPU to come in stock. Thanks guys.

  •  11-03-2009, 10:11 AM 581738 in reply to 581735

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

      any p55 mobo will support Lga 1156 cpus

    an open box may not have any of the cables, software(drivers) that come wt the retail version.

    *****    If you purchase an Open-Box product Newegg guarantees only that you will receive the product itself;

              accessories MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED with Open-Box products.

              Newegg will not send you a missing accessory,

              even if the missing accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions

    Open Box Limited Refund Only 30 Day Return Policy

    • Return for refund within: 30 days
    • Return for replacement within: non-replaceable
  •  11-03-2009, 10:12 AM 581739 in reply to 581738

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    FreightShaker:

      any p55 mobo will support Lga 1156 cpus

    an open box may not have any of the cables, software(drivers) that come wt the retail version.

    *****    If you purchase an Open-Box product Newegg guarantees only that you will receive the product itself;

              accessories MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED with Open-Box products.

              Newegg will not send you a missing accessory,

              even if the missing accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions

    Open Box Limited Refund Only 30 Day Return Policy

    • Return for refund within: 30 days
    • Return for replacement within: non-replaceable

    Yep that is correct Yes


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  •  11-03-2009, 10:19 AM 581743 in reply to 581739

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    mmk. I have plenty of sata cables, and i think i can find a ide/pata cable. If not office depot or radio shack probably has them. I guess the only thing it would suck to not have would be the rear panel shield.

    Thanks. I'll let you guys know how it runs when i get it built. Cheers!

  •  11-03-2009, 10:27 AM 581748 in reply to 581743

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    Well I would avoid the open box on a new build. The only time I would buy one is if I was in a pinch and needed something right away to last me for about 1 month.


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  •  11-03-2009, 10:43 AM 581755 in reply to 581748

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    ok. ill remember that. I just thought about something. Will i have any issues with heat? Will i need extra fans/heatsinks?
  •  11-03-2009, 10:52 AM 581762 in reply to 581755

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    Nope you will be fine with cooling in side the case. As for the HS&F the only time I would recomed getting a aftermarket is if you will OC or that you know the CPU temps will be high. Back to the case look here http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2700 and see what you think of it.

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  •  11-03-2009, 1:08 PM 581799 in reply to 581762

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    will a radeon 5870 fit in that case? Also whats the advantage of  triple channel vs dual channel? 8gb of ddr3 dual channel better or worse then 6 gb of triple channel?
  •  11-03-2009, 1:37 PM 581807 in reply to 581799

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    Yes the 5870 will fit. As for tri or DC RAM your board only supports dual channel. If you want tri channel RAM look at the X58 boards only.

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  •  11-03-2009, 2:04 PM 581812 in reply to 581807

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    yeah i saw that board didn't support it, i was just wondering the pros cons of it.
  •  11-03-2009, 2:22 PM 581815 in reply to 581812

    Re: Need input for gaming build.

    As for now there is very little difference in the two.


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