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Want to try Linux Need help choosing

Last post 08-13-2009, 6:40 AM by ronaldprettyman. 14 replies.
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  •  05-09-2009, 11:40 PM 522572

    Want to try Linux Need help choosing

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    I am looking for a new OS I want to delv more deply in to the world of Linux OS. I have a few questions

    Will I be able to use programs Like

    Autodesk

     Maya Unlimited

     CAD software

    3d Max

    Visual 08

    I also want to be able to have a easy interface for customizing the Desktop. It needs to be light on resources unlike windows that bog’s don’t processes running back ground apps that don’t have no effect on system performance. I have messed around with Ubuntu and liked it.

     

    Please let me know about a Distro that will work I am a avid gamer and don’t want to give up my games.

     

    Thank you

  •  05-10-2009, 12:21 AM 522580 in reply to 522572

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

     

    Plain and simple dual boot Windows and Linux

    Autodesk < Windows Only

    Maya Unlimited <-- Will work with Fedora 8.0 and up.

    3d Max <--- Windows Windows Windows

     Visual 08 <-- WHAT there is Visual 08 C++, there is Visual 08 Photo, VB08 known as Visual Basic 08 also people call it Visual 08.

    I also want to be able to have a easy interface for customizing the Desktop.

    Umm yeah and???

     

    I am a avid gamer and don't want to give up my games.

    Umm no you're not, then you would know that 95% of the games on the market are written for Windows.

     


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  •  05-10-2009, 4:07 AM 522591 in reply to 522580

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    so basically dont go Linux if your are designing video games? Does any one have any other ideas?

    What is Linuz good for besides networking ? 

    Thansk.......

    I am aware that most games are windows/mac only yet there are some people that provide Linuz.EXE for thier games. the GAMES FOR WINDOWS uhh no. but I can go to my shelf and grab mutiple boxes that will install on linux with wine. if you knew any thing abotu games you would actually read the side label for requirements before posting the 95% most popular games will install on linux, Plus I knwo there are emulators otu there that if it wont run the EM software and it will run. reason I am wanting to change is my friend is Linuz only but he plays around with so many versions he is useless for getting one a novice can learn.

    so if I can get soem on positive I would apreciate it TY 

  •  05-10-2009, 8:53 AM 522655 in reply to 522591

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    And that is why you did not look at the system requirements for these, Autodesk, Maya Unlimited, 3d Max, Maya Unlimited is the only one that will run in Fedora 8.0 the rest are for Windows and MAC only.  And Autodesk requires DX  9.0C regardless which Linux does not offer only OpenGL. You failed to even look at open source programming and Autodesk, Maya is not that at all. If you Dual Boot then you can run Autodesk Maya, ect...

    http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/games.shtml

    http://www.linux.com/feature/22353 

    Linux is great for programming, learning, Networking ect...

    No there is not that many out there. Count how many games are geared towards Windows, MAC, and Linux. For a novice user the only ones I would recommend that are easy to even start with are SuSE, and Ubuntu. Fedora is not for the beginner nor is the one I use called Solaris 10. The other two are easy to get you started. However I also quad boot the system as well so that I am not stuck with just one OS. Also I am more aware then you would even think about programming but what you chose was based for mainly Windows and MAC not Linux, A majority of Linux apps can be had for free this is called Open Source.


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  •  05-10-2009, 4:40 PM 522783 in reply to 522655

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

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    I was hoping there was a way around it, that some type of emulator could run auto desk, Maya unlimited (still auto desk), and 3dMax. Visual I will accept can’t run in a Linux. But I have these courses in college classes and will have to stick with a dual boot system.

    That games list was kind of small and didn’t include the ones I play which have a dual so installation. WOW can be played on Linux I know for a fact cuz my friend who is a Linux stalker plays wow. He refuses to use windows after NT/2000.

    The game is am willing to put together a machine strictly for gamming I realize a lot more next gen games are coming out and they are going to bear the title “Games for Windows” which is getting BS. But any game that supports openGL I thought worked on Linux or was my research misinformed?

     

    So I am familiar with programming not a pro or confident enough to have an OS dependant on programming. I downloaded an Ubuntu, is SuSE easy on install and like Ubuntu?  

     

    I am coming to the professsionals because I know little to nothing about Linux OS soo I need all the dam help I can get.......

     

    How light on resources is Ubuntu and SuSE ?? 

  •  05-10-2009, 4:45 PM 522785 in reply to 522783

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    P.S.

    Thank you for the Links I am reading now,

    ok if the game uses OpenGl is there a way emulation to have it run on Linux ??

     

    I will go through my games and list which ones are linux compatiple... 

     but I am wanting to start producing games after collage. so I need a light software programming set that is compatiple with both systems that wont take hours to render a compleated project. ty agian 

  •  05-11-2009, 8:15 AM 522941 in reply to 522783

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

     

    Maya unlimited is not still AutoDesk, Maya unlimited is a separate software for 3D, and AutoDesk is actually the company's name. So don't confuse AutoDesk with Maya. There is nothing wrong with DB at all, most of the pros around here run DB TriB, and Quad. well I might be the only one running a Quad boot. OpenGL games as long as the code is written for Linux as well can be played, Example is Counter Strike and Counter Strike Source I know can be operational in all 3 OS's. Also X-Plane can go under all 3 as well but you have to have one hell of a HDD to install that one 70GB install.  Yes WoW was written for both as well. Also "Games for Windows" really is not BS at all you better look in to how that really does work and why its there in the first place. OpenGL can be played on Linux as long as its coded for that OS. Windows can handle both where Linux cannot handle D3D or DX.

    Also you might want to look at this http://www.livecdlist.com/ and look under the column that says "Purpose" 

    As for the light on resources SuSE is great that is the one I did start with back in the day. As for Ubuntu and resources I cannot tell you I don't use it for me there is no need for it. What I have been taught here in this forum is any one that is going from Windows to Linux they have a better time understanding Ubuntu.


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  •  05-11-2009, 8:28 AM 522946 in reply to 522785

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    BlueBalzz:

    P.S.

    Thank you for the Links I am reading now,

    ok if the game uses OpenGl is there a way emulation to have it run on Linux ??

     

    I will go through my games and list which ones are linux compatiple... 

     but I am wanting to start producing games after collage. so I need a light software programming set that is compatiple with both systems that wont take hours to render a compleated project. ty agian 

    NP

    As long as the Emulator can see and access what it needs for the game to run. Wine is ok, I have used that in the past but in all truth I hate using emulators all together.

    Well getting software for both is not really that difficult. Most of the programming tools for Linux will come with the Distro itself. As for Windows based you will most likely have to buy them or some can be free as well,


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  •  05-11-2009, 3:14 PM 523214 in reply to 522946

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    OK I thinkI will try out both Ubuntu and SuSE,

    I thought SuSE your had to pay for ? the only one I found is purchase ?? enless I am looking wrong place can you please give a link to a good distro of SuSE?

     

    ty 

  •  05-11-2009, 3:23 PM 523217 in reply to 523214

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  •  05-11-2009, 5:11 PM 523300 in reply to 523217

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    Thank you very much.

     

     

    After a powersurge on my computer that my PSU and surge protecters didnt catch I am trying to recover my computer but it keeps hanging up some hting in hardware is tipsy and it will be a while till I replace, enless you know of grants for collage that will pay for new computer............

    any way thank you very much hope to talk to you and others ( seems like Linux forums is a ghost town) about cool tricks and stuff

  •  05-11-2009, 6:09 PM 523341 in reply to 523300

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    Not a problem.

    ouch that is not good if the SP did not catch that jolt to the PSU. At this point its hard to say what can really be wrong and why its acting the way it is.

    Linux is great for several reasons, but its up to the user to decide on what he or she wants. And yes they are a ghost town and have been since 1992. A lot of people are still afraid or unsure of Linux this is why.

     


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  •  05-18-2009, 5:54 PM 525779 in reply to 523341

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    Wow, reading this thread makes my head hurt. Long story short Autodesk Maya is the only software that you listed with a Linux version (assuming you have a license for it), and it works great. For everything else you'll either have to find an alternative for dual boot with Windows and Linux.

    I'd suggest starting with Ubuntu, Fedora, or Suse since they are up to date and have large communties. I go back and forth with Fedora and Ubuntu, not tried Maya on Ubuntu but I know it works on Fedora once you install a font package and the C shell (csh or tcsh). Ubuntu will probably be the same and work just fine. Cheers!


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  •  05-18-2009, 6:04 PM 525785 in reply to 525779

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    Forgot to address one of the questions, you asked what is Linux good for since it doesn't run most of those applications. Well, its good for just about anything you want to do. Just because Autodesk doesn't make a CAD program for Linux doesn't mean there's no CAD program for Linux. For example there's QCad, Archimedes, BRL-CAD and other 3D applications like Blender for visualizing those models (similar to Maya).

    Linux can do everyday tasks just as good as Windows (or OS X) if not better. For example browsing the web, transcoding media, enjoying music and movies, organizing photographs, office tasks, editing video, whatever. Its also a great platform for servers, software development, computer graphics and visual effects (what I use it for), mobile systems and laptops, embedded systems and small devices, the list goes on.

    Thinking that Linux is useless because it doesn't play most games or run a particular program (for which alterntives exist) is somehwat ignorant. Give it a few months and you'll be hooked and never want to use Windows again. Cheers!


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  •  08-13-2009, 6:40 AM 558130 in reply to 522572

    Re: Want to try Linux Need help choosing

    Go about it the wrong way, what you should ask is what is the linux equivalent of X.

     

    Your enjoy linux a good deal more, if you avoid trying to run windows software in it.

    3d; BLENDER - Extremely Powerful 3d engine for modeling, gaming, riging, texturing, you name it, check out blender for 3d comes with most distro's

    CAD: Google CAD + Linux, and have a look at what is out their

    Visual 08: Like visual studios, like programming, WHY WHY, would you write windows code in linux

    Linux has tons of IDE and programming languages. Look at

    Eclipse
    Genie
    their are other but can't think of them off the top of my head
    QT Creator
    etc, etc, etc

    Linux uses the GNU C compiler and GNU C++. It has has java, ruby, perl, php, cobal..... 

    Visual Basic, .net, C# to the best of my knowledge or windows specific. Though that defeats the purpose of .net but I believe their is osx support not positive though.

     

    Gnome has built in tools for customization

    KDE especially KDE 4 (4.3 is pretty nice) has tons of tools BUILD in for customizing your workspace. Its not like windows, you don't have to download malware to edit the task bar, or change your windows decorations.

    You can make you own, edit existing, or search the massive databases of
    kde-look.org and/or gnome-look.org

    Linux, is the kernel, and what runs on top of it is highly modular and can be interchanged with other aspects. You can have md5 password encrytion or blowfish or any of the others its all in your personal preference.

    If you know little about linux, OpenSuse or Ubuntu make a great desktop/workstation

    Fedora makes a great development server or a crappy desktop

    Slackware will kick your a**, but your learn alot about how linux works

    Debian is what Ubuntu is based on. It more stable but not as current if your not looking for the newest of the newest I highly recommend it, as it won't crash as frequently as fedora and ubuntu. Btw I'd avoid fedora right now any way, their in the process of a complete over haul of the code and packages and the system is frankly broken in the latest release, 12 or 13 might be a good point to jump on with them, or go back to 10.

    So

    Debian 5 +
    Fedora 10 +
    Ubuntu 9.04 +
    OpenSuse 11.1 +
    Slackware 12 + (might be 12.1 or 12.2 by now)

    Fedora 11 -
    OpenSuse 11 -

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