EggXpert

This is going to be my new build here within the next week or so once I order the parts. But first I'm looking for any suggestions or anything I might have missed before I pull the trigger.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

HDD's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260
           http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

LCD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125 x2

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768 x2

Sound Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703012

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227275 x2

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

HSF: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106061

Blu-ray: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136133

I know there isn't thermal paste in there as I've already got plenty Arctic 5 at home. I'll may eventually go for a water cooling solution after doing some more research on which ones are good, not so good, etc...but for now I'll stick with the best air cooler I can get. So, any other suggestions as to a better fan would be welcomed.

Now on to the main things I'll be doing with PC. The primary function of the PC will be gaming but I also do some video editing (only minor), some web design stuff, some programming, and of course the usual surfing the web and checking email/facebook and other websites. I've got the 10k rpm drive to load my OS onto and put most of my games onto as well. The 1TB drive is just for storage of files, music, movies, things like that. I'll eventually get another for backup of the drive.

I'm also going to be overclocking as much as possible and figured the DDR3 ram might be a bit better than the DDR2. Someone correct me if I'm wrong or if there really isn't much difference between the two.

 Money isn't an object for me as I've got plenty so that's why I'm going basically all out with this build. I did opt to not go for the quad extreme because I can't justfy the extra $700 for an unlocked multi when the Q9550 I'm going with will reach close the same overclock.

 

Suggestions/comments welcome, flames or not.

 

Thanks

I found 3 mistakes on your build, first you selected ddr3 RAM, Second your mobo is ddr2 RAM and third your HTSK&F is for a P4 775 or an AMD it won't fit.

lotaguns:

This is going to be my new build here within the next week or so once I order the parts. But first I'm looking for any suggestions or anything I might have missed before I pull the trigger.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

HDD's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260
           http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

LCD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125 x2

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102768 x2

Sound Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703012

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227275 x2

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

HSF: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106061

Blu-ray: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136133

I know there isn't thermal paste in there as I've already got plenty Arctic 5 at home. I'll may eventually go for a water cooling solution after doing some more research on which ones are good, not so good, etc...but for now I'll stick with the best air cooler I can get. So, any other suggestions as to a better fan would be welcomed.

Now on to the main things I'll be doing with PC. The primary function of the PC will be gaming but I also do some video editing (only minor), some web design stuff, some programming, and of course the usual surfing the web and checking email/facebook and other websites. I've got the 10k rpm drive to load my OS onto and put most of my games onto as well. The 1TB drive is just for storage of files, music, movies, things like that. I'll eventually get another for backup of the drive.

I'm also going to be overclocking as much as possible and figured the DDR3 ram might be a bit better than the DDR2. Someone correct me if I'm wrong or if there really isn't much difference between the two.

 Money isn't an object for me as I've got plenty so that's why I'm going basically all out with this build. I did opt to not go for the quad extreme because I can't justfy the extra $700 for an unlocked multi when the Q9550 I'm going with will reach close the same overclock.

 

Suggestions/comments welcome, flames or not.

 

Thanks

 

 

You really need to understand that SKT 775 is "End Of Life", and that buying into this technology will depreciate at a very accellerated rate.

Intel will be shortly be introducing Nehalem/Tylersburg/Bloomfield, and LGA 1366 that will be the new High End.

The pricing is going to be about where current hardware is at, so it makes little sense to "Just throw money at it"

You should take the time to do further research, and you will then reconsider your capital outlay to what is going to soon be "Old Tech"

the new Nehalem will allow any combination of Video Cards, and SLI... ETC ETC ETC..

hes just talking nonsense, there is little performance gain for games with nehalem. not to mention it wont exactly be cheap. (though it wont be too much of a problem for you if you wanted to get it)

Aedion:

hes just talking nonsense, there is little performance gain for games with nehalem. not to mention it wont exactly be cheap. (though it wont be too much of a problem for you if you wanted to get it)

the low end Tylersburg will be at $300.00ish

While the Nehalem Architecture is more geared to perform better in a database situation, two of my friends have ES pieces, and they have observed 15%-20% improvement clock for clock with an equivelent Yorkfield, then add the "TurboMode" factory overclocking, and some of the other feature set, and it is clearly a winner... 

LGA 1366 is clearly aimed at High End desktops,, and gaming.. it is just because of NDA's that little has been released as far as gaming performance is concerned.

Now that nVIDIA has allowed "native" SLI support on X58, and nehalem have it all going for it...

Aedion.. you really need to do better research than some canned statements that are a few months old.. you should talk to people that are "Hands On"

SKT 775 is dead... that is a fact... It is, what it is! 

I don't think that any technology is truly dead until it has become 3-4 generations old and stops being used all together, like AMD's Socket 939 as soon as those last few motherboards fail then they will be over with. Intel's socket 775 since it has such powerful CPU's still available, way more then then the average user needs, I can see them being used for another year or so as a standard for entry-mid level platforms.

Hey MF how about some links to backup what you are saying! True the X58 boards have their designs and prototypes out but have not got the bugs worked out nor the drivers until Intel lets them have some of the New CPUs which are not due out till next year sometime. As for the prices where did you come up with them.

 the low end Tylersburg will be at $300.00ish

HOGHAULER:

Hey MF how about some links to backup what you are saying! True the X58 boards have their designs and prototypes out but have not got the bugs worked out nor the drivers until Intel lets them have some of the New CPUs which are not due out till next year sometime. As for the prices where did you come up with them.

 the low end Tylersburg will be at $300.00ish

 

As of its current description (at Spring IDF 2008), Nehalem appears to incorporate the most significant new architectural changes to the x86 microarchitecture since the Pentium Pro debuted in 1995. Nehalem is highly scalable with different components for different tasks. Various sources have stated Nehalem's specification will have:

• Two, four, or eight cores
  • 731 million transistors for the quad core variant
• 45 nm manufacturing process
• Integrated memory controller supporting DDR3 SDRAM and between one and six memory channels^{[citation needed]}
• Integrated graphics processor (IGP) located off-die, but in the same CPU package^[5]
• A new point-to-point processor interconnect, the Intel QuickPath Interconnect, replacing the legacy front side bus
• Simultaneous multithreading, which enables two threads per core. Simultaneous multithreading has been present on a consumer Intel processor since 2006 with the Pentium 4 and Pentium EE.
• Native (monolithic, i.e. all processor cores on a single die) quad- and octo-core (8) processors
• The following caches:
  • 32 KB L1 instruction and 32 KB L1 data cache per core
  • 256 KB L2 cache per core
  • 2-3 MB L3 cache per core shared by all cores
• 33% more in-flight micro-ops than Conroe^[7]
• Second-level branch predictor and second-level Translation Lookaside Buffer^[7]
• Modular blocks of components such as cores that can be added and subtracted for varying market segments

Event demonstrations at the Shanghai Intel Developer Forum showed A1 silicon Bloomfield-based Nehalem processors at IDF running at 3.2 GHz. This processor had 32 KB L1 instruction and 32 KB L1 data cache, 256 KB L2 cache per core, and 8 MB of shared L3 cache.^[9]

[edit] Performance and power improvements

It has been reported that Nehalem will have a focus on performance, which accounts for the increased core size.^[10] Compared to Penryn, Nehalem will have:

• 1.1x to 1.25x the single-threaded performance or 1.2x to 2x the multithreaded performance at the same power level
• 30% lower power usage for the same performance
• According to a preview from AnandTech "expect a 20-30% overall advantage over Penryn with only a 10% increase in power usage. It looks like Intel is on track to delivering just that in Q4."^[11]
• Core-wise, clock-for-clock, Nehalem will provide a 15%-20% increase in performance compared to Penryn. [3]

PC Watch found that a Nehalem "Gainestown" processor has 1.6x the SPECint_rate2006 integer performance and 2.4x the SPECfp_rate_2006 floating-point performance of a 3.0 GHz Xeon X5365 "Clovertown" quad-core processor.^[10]

A 2.93 GHz Nehalem "Bloomfield" system has been used to run a 3DMark Vantage benchmark and gave a CPU score of 17,966.^[12] The 2.66 GHz variant scores 16,294. A 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo E6600 scores 4,300.^[13]

AnandTech tested the Intel QuickPath Interconnect (4.8 GT/s version) and found the copy bandwidth using triple-channel 1066 MHz DDR3 was 12.0 GB/s. A 3.0 GHz Core 2 Quad system using dual-channel 1066 MHz DDR3 achieved 6.9 GB/s.^[14]

Overclocking will be possible with Bloomfield processors and the X58 chipset. The Lynnfield and Havendale processors will use a PCH removing the need for a northbridge chipset.

Nehalem Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)

Nehalem Pricing

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/07/14/intel_prices_up_nehalem/

Scary words.

Full Product line Release for 1366 and its low-end counter-part is NOT due for another eyar or more, expect 775 part production to extend a few months after that.

775 is due for replacement, but it's not going to "DIE" for a YEARS.

Example: I can still find 5 year old socket 478 parts NEW on newegg. 

User is being moderated for spamming with this incorrect information and is banned from chat for not understanding the need to cite hard examples of a stop-manufacture date.

Yes 775 is being replaced *starting* in nov, but it will not see full product line replacement until end of 2009, and all product manufacture will cease sometime AFTER that. Pasting this post into every thread that the user has spammed into.

Thank You CAGG. Opinion is one thing but saying its fact with nothing to back it up is just BS.

Ok cool I just got a lot of information, lol. Well I knew that Nahalem was supposed to be release sometime within the next 6 months to a year timeframe and just figured that I'd use this system until the bugs were worked out. Then I could go and buy a new mobo and processor and reuse the other parts...hence wanting to go with DDR3.

 Suggestions anyone...and I need to  change the HSF out but I may just go with a watercooling system and scrap that HSF.

Sorry to everyone who has to filter through this. I am pretty heavy handed, but when someone is going to post wild generalizations without hard evidence, hoping to affect people's purchase decisions.

As XtremeRevolution has pointed out, if there are technical specifics y'all wanna discuss, let's have at it. 

Is "future proofing" really "future proofing"?

How will performance be affected?

What are some of the new technologies coming out that truly are "compelling reasons to upgrade"?

These are all valid discussion points.

"775 is dead" is just mindless trolling,and I apologize for interrupting the discussion to clean it up.

As previously reported, the 2.66GHz Bloomfield - Intel's desktop Nehalem - will also be made available in 2.93GHz and 3.2GHz versions. The pricing, posted by Chinese-language site HKEPC, confirms the latter will be an Extreme-branded gaming PC part - it'll cost $999. The mid-range Bloomfield will cost $562

I did not find any $300ish listed prices nor did I see anywhere that said LGA775 is dead. All you showed was specs and their plans for the Nehalem.