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issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

Last post 07-29-2008, 7:47 AM by Boss. 9 replies.
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  •  07-09-2008, 5:11 PM 354476

    Tongue Tied [:S] issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    so, i was upgrading my video card to a xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked edition card from newegg. it worked fine for a week then the computer wouldn't start, and when i unpluged the card and tried agian and someting in the setup let out a long and annoying ring, the only problem i thought it could be was power issues, then i realized that the recommended psu wattage for the card was 500 watts or higher, and i was using a 250 watt psu. how it worked fine for a week, i have no idea, anyways, i went and baught a 500 watt psu from newegg. i just got it today and installed the  psu and put the card back in and the same thing happened, it wouldn't start and when i unpluged the card the same ringing noise came. everything works fine as long as the card isn't in. any explenations would be nice. newegg told me return it and they will send me a new one. i don't know if it was a defective card for something in my setup is re***d. what i don't get is that it worked for a week without any issues. so ya any explenations or solutions or just about anything would be nice. thousands of thanks in advance!

     CharleyMoo


    System Specs
    Budget:VGA:xfx Geforc 8800gs 380mb overclocked editionMonitor:
    MB:OS:windows vistaBrowser:
    CPU:intel celeron D processer 360Sound:built into the motherboardPurpose:
    Memory:1 and a half gigPSU:apevia atx 500wBrand:depends
    HD:130 GigCooling:asusMisc:
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  •  07-09-2008, 10:31 PM 354625 in reply to 354476

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    well, it would seem that you didn't pick out all that great of a power supply to replace your old one.  I don't know if that's the problem or not, but having a low-quality power supply can cause all sorts of problems, and can cause damage to your other components. 

    Apevia has yet to make a good power supply.  Their power supplies are rated for higher wattages than they can handle, they're cheaply made, and their voltage regulation is terrible. 

    Here are some excerpts of reviews dealing with Apevia power supplies:

    In the review of the Apevia Warlock 900watt power supply at Jonnyguru.com:

    JonnyGuru.com:

    For overrating the unit by a good 100W, for nearly cooking itself in the cold tests on test five, for blowing past those pesky ATX specs without even trying to shut down, for failing in the hot box, for using Japanese capacitors purely as a marketing bullet point without addressing performance, I wave my magic wand and bestow this unit with a dismal 4.[out of ten]


    In the review of the  Apevia ATX-AS500W-BL power supply at Hardocp.com:

    Hardocp.com:
      

    Test #3 sees the bad from Test #2 only get worse. 12v1 and 12v2 are both now out of ATX specification with 12v2 dropping as low as 11.08v at 100v. The efficiency has plummeted to between 65.37% and 66.60% while exhaust temperatures have jumped to between 67c-68c. At this point the unit has also begun to melt and smell horrible.

    On the performance side of the load testing, the Apevia was a wreck. Neither unit would power up with any load greater than the Test #3 numbers which may be a good thing as the units were melting during Test #3. With only a 50% load the unit violated the ATX specification for output voltages, and during the 75% test the units 12v rails dropped as low as 11.08v. Output voltages at this level would most likely result in unstable systems if the systems would boot at all. To make matters worse the units efficiency was never good only peaking at 72.59% (50% load at 120v) while dropping as low as 65.37% (75% load at 100v).

    There is no application that the Apevia ATX-AS500W-BL would be suitable for and it could indeed be outright dangerous hardware due to its electrical performance and due to how the unit’s physical construction operates at elevated temperatures (such as our testing range of 45c). The Apevia ATX-AS500W-BL is priced at $59.99 (currently $54.99) but simply can not be recommended at this or any other price point.



    From the review of the Apevia X-QPack 420watt PSU at Jonnyguru.com:

    JonnyGuru.com:
      

    The internals of the power supply changed very little over a year's time yet somehow Aspire is now able to boast 6 more amps on the 3.3V, 3 more amps on the 5V, and an additional 12V rail.  Right.  Chalk these guys up as another plaintiff in my class action lawsuit against false power supply labeling.  It couldn't do 300W, the voltages were way out of spec (the 12V dropped to 10.65V with only a 192W load on the combined 12V rail,) the efficiency stinks, there's no PFC....  How much worse can it get?

    Needless to say, this power supply is a total bust. 


    The Aspire Dark-Side 600W (Apevia used to use the brand name Aspire), and Aspire 680W Beast power supplies also failed miserably in testing at Jonnyguru.com. 

    I have yet to see any Apevia power supply work at their labeled specs in a review.  As you can see from the reviews I mentioned, even at loads much lower than the ones the power supplies are labeled for, the voltage regulation is terrible.  The 420watt power supply above couldn't even put out 200watts without dropping the voltages way out of spec. 

    Also, due to their cheap construction, and lack of protection(like over power, under voltage, over voltage, etc), these power supplies are actually quite likely to damage your computer.  In fact, some of the power supplies in the above reviews claimed to have these safety features, but testing revealed that that was a complete fabrication. 

     

    Currently, there are a couple power supplies on sale that should be able to handle your computer fine:

    The Antec Earthwatts 430watt power supply is on sale for $30 w/ free shipping right now at newegg.  It's a high-quality seasonic-made power supply with high efficiency and a quiet fan.  You can read a review of an Antec Earthwatts power supply at JonnyGuru.com. 

    The OCZ StealthXStream 500watt power supply is on sale for $35 w/ free shipping right now at newegg.  It's a good quality FSP-made power supply, although the fan isn't as quiet as the Antec Earthwatts fan.  You can read a review of an OCZ StealthXStream power supply at HardwareSecrets.com. 

    Since your computer actually only draws around 320watts at max load, you don't need a really high wattage power supply, you just need a good quality one that has enough watts to cover that(with some headroom), that is honestly rated. 

    I hope you figure out what the problem is soon.  I think I've covered the power supply problem possibility pretty well.  Does anyone else have any other ideas?  

    Also, you said that the computer made a ringing sound when the card was not in.  Do you mean a long beep?  I think that a lot of motherboards will beep continuously when there is no video card inserted.  Does your motherboard have integrated video that you were using(or trying to use) when the video card was not plugged in?  If the sound was not coming from the motherboard, could you try to determine where the sound was coming from? 

    There is always the unfortunate possibility that your original power supply may have damaged your computer components, but that seems somewhat unlikely the way you described the problem.  I'd say, just get the Earthwatts 430watt PSU for $30, and try it out.  Hopefully that'll solve your problem.  

  •  07-10-2008, 8:47 PM 355388 in reply to 354476

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    Just to add....

    What kind of annoying ring? lots of beeps? or like a screeching sound?

    If beeps your main board is trying to tell you something, if a screeching your video card is crying for MORE POWER.  a weak power supply might not set this alarm off everytime you turn it on, does it start working after several reboots?


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  •  07-12-2008, 5:46 PM 356419 in reply to 355388

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    its a screetching sound, and it starts working as soon as the video card is out. you don't even have to reboot.

    charelymoo

  •  07-13-2008, 3:42 PM 356801 in reply to 354625

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    if it is a psu problem, then i don't get why its working just fine now, as long as the card isn't in, i guess if apevia that bad of a brand and can't take as much as it says it is, that would make sense. i guess i need to get a new(and better) psu on newegg somewhere. i was looking and wondering if thermaltake and xion were good brands, and if anyone had ever heard of NIB, and if its a good brand
  •  07-14-2008, 8:14 AM 357078 in reply to 356801

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    Well, Thermaltake sells some good power supplies, and some not so good ones.  Xion isn't a good PSU brand.  I've never heard of NIB, are you sure that NIB doesn't stand for "new in box"? 

    The quickest way to tell if a power supply is good or not, is to look it up on the eggxpert tiered power supply list.   On that list, any power supply in tier 1 through 3 would be considered "good".  Anything in 4 is acceptable, but not particularly recommended.  Category 5 power supplies are bad, and should not be used. 

    I did list some good power supply deals in my above post, so you may want to consider those.  All you really need is a good quality 500watt power supply.  You should be able to get one of those for $40 or less. 


  •  07-24-2008, 12:26 PM 362328 in reply to 357078

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    is there any posibility at all that the issue could have been the card? I took it in to get checked but i was just curious.
  •  07-24-2008, 10:42 PM 362577 in reply to 362328

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    Yes its possible.

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  •  07-25-2008, 2:03 PM 362961 in reply to 362577

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked card

    well, today i got my video card back from the egg, installed it, and everything in it is fine, even with the apevia PSU. so apparently something went wrong with the card, but everything is cool now. so ya, thanks a ton to everyone that helped out!

    CharleyMoo

  •  07-29-2008, 7:47 AM 364766 in reply to 362961

    Re: issues with my xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked

    charleymoo:

    well, today i got my video card back from the egg, installed it, and everything in it is fine, even with the apevia PSU. so apparently something went wrong with the card, but everything is cool now. so ya, thanks a ton to everyone that helped out!

    CharleyMoo

     

     

    "so, i was upgrading my video card to a xfx Geforce 8800gs overclocked edition card from newegg. it worked fine for a week then the computer wouldn't start,"

     

    Uhhh.. I see you going in some type of pattern... 

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