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Hello, I was wondering if this specific Power Supply would fit into this case...?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811196021

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341005

And this is my motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135039 

 

I'm not too sure, and I'm not too sure what to look for when it comes to measurements and such. So, before I order this Power Supply, I was just wondering if it would fit snugly? Thank you!
 

Yes it will fit, but I don't think I would be able to do a better job at picking a lower rated power supply, lol.

Get yourself a better power supply, Corsair 550W comes to mind, but chances are, depending on your system specs, you wouldn't need more than a 450W quality PSU.

Yes you have a mid ATX tower the PSU will fit. You might have to move a optical drive down a slot or two but it will work.

Just to Add on, here you can get an idea how much a quality PSU costs. For the most part, everything $80+ is fairly efficient, everything below $80, might still be good, but effeciency-wise it's dragging.

Oh so it's a low quality PSU? How can you tell? Just wondering so I'll be able to in the future.

 

The rest of my PC's specs are:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103733

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148215

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130071

 
Would there be a better PSU for this system then? I'm looking for a PSU in the $60-79.99 range, would be perfect. I'm fairly new to building my own rigs, and I was doubtful that the PSU would fit into the case as well (just to show my "noobness") :p

 

*Edit*

 

I'm looking at this one and it seems to fit what I want. Opinions on it?
 

Argosax:

Oh, so it's a low quality PSU? How can you tell? Just wondering so I'll be able to in the future.

well, I wouldn't exactly call that a low quality power supply.  I think SergeiV was noting that there do seem to be a fair percentage of lower ratings on newegg for that power supply.  However, there is a great review of an OCZ EvoStream power supply at jonnyguru.com.  The only complaints that they noted in the review is that the fan noise is loud and that it is expensive.  However, for $54 that's actually a very good deal. 

Here's some of what was posted in the review of the evostream: 

jonnyguru.com:

the voltage regulation is fantastic. Especially for a modular power supply which is going to exhibit voltage drop simply due to the fact that there's additional resistance created by the modular interface.

jonnyguru.com:

The power supply has rock solid rails and active PFC. 

jonnyguru.com:

At around $170, it's more expensive than most power supplies, even modular power supplies. Yes, it's built like a tank. Yes, it will likely last forever. So if you can quantify sheer girth with a dollar amount, perhaps $170 is a fair price.

jonnyguru.com:

It's hard not to love the EvoStream. It's like a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. "Hey! You got a server power supply in my modular gamer power supply!"

Looking at the reviews, it seems that a couple people received DOA power supplies, a couple other people though that the cable sleeves were too stiff(and rated the power supply down for that), and one person recieved one that wasn't regulating power properly.   As with any power supply, there will be defective units.  It's hard to say if the defective unit percentage is significantly higher than most other power supplies, due to the low total number of user posted reviews. 

Personally, I would get one of those, if the noise wouldn't be too much of a bother.  They are nice server quality power supplies with high quality internal components, as was noted in the jonnyguru review, and for $55 it is a great price. 

As for how to tell if a power supply is good or not, you should try searching the web for high quality reviews.  A high quality review is a review in which the power supply is loaded up to various load levels, including it's max rated wattage.  Voltage readings of the rails should be taken at each load level, as well as efficiency measurements. 

If a review just hooks the power supply up to a computer, and checks the voltages at load and idle, that review really won't tell you much about the quality of the power supply.  Chances are, the computer that they loaded it up with is not equal to the total rated wattage of the power supply, so there's no way to tell if the power supply is rated honestly or not.  

Also, reviews should check the ripple on the 5v, 3.3v, and 12v rails at each load level.  Many reviews do not check for this, and ripple can slowly destroy the voltage regulators on your motherboard and video card if it is too high(over ATX specs) for too long.  

The best places to start looking for good reviews are the following websites: jonnyguru.com, hardocp.com, and hardwaresecrets.com.  I think that anandtech also does pretty good power supply reviews as well.  

If you can't find a good review of a certain power supply, you can always post it up on these forums, and we can dig up some information for you.  

 

Argosax:

The rest of my PC's specs are:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103733

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148215

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130071

did you already purchase all of these items?   If you didn't, there are certainly better RAM and video card deals out right now.  I can post links if you're interested. 

 

Argosax:

Would there be a better PSU for this system then? I'm looking for a PSU in the $60-79.99 range, would be perfect. I'm fairly new to building my own rigs, and I was doubtful that the PSU would fit into the case as well (just to show my "noobness") :p

 

*Edit*

 

I'm looking at this one and it seems to fit what I want. Opinions on it?
 

well, that is an OK power supply.  Rosewill is essentially Newegg's in house brand, and some of their power supply models are pretty good budget units.  However, their RP series power supplies use lower quality capacitors that will fail if they are exposed to higher temperatures.  Also, at $70 that really isn't a good deal.  If you'd like to read about that power supply, there is a good review up of the 500watt Rosewill RP500-v2 power supply at jonnyguru.com. 

Also, your system does not need 600watts of power.   In order to figure out how much power your computer actually needs, you just add up all the max draw wattages each of your components are rated for. 

In your case: 

CPU: 65watts

GPU: 108watts

optical drive: 25watts

hard drive: 10watts

motherboard: 50watts

cooling, PCI cards, RAM, etc...: 50watts

total: 308watts

so, any good-quality 430watt power supply or higher should run your computer fine.  

Currently, the Antec Earthwatts 430watt power supply is on sale for $30 w/ free shipping at newegg.com.  It's a high quality power supply made by seasonic.  It has high efficiency and a quiet fan.  You can read a review of an Antec Earthwatts power supply at Jonnyguru.com. However, you couldn't really do too many upgrades with this power supply, and SLI is certainly out.  You could add a couple hard drives without a problem, or put, say, an ATI Radeon 4850 graphics card in. 

Also, you can currently get the OCZ StealthXStream 500watt power supply for $30 w/ free shipping at newegg.com.  Use the coupon code EMCAGCGBD to get the $30 price.  It's a good power supply selling for a great price, although it does have a louder fan than the Antec Earthwatts.  If you'd like to read more about it, there is a great review of an OCZ StealthXStream up at HardwareSecrets.com. 

If you'd like more power, the OCZ GameXStream 600watt power supply is currently on sale for $50 + shipping.  It, like the above StealthXStream 500watt power supply, is a very nice PSU.  In fact, during testing at Hardware Secrets of the StealthXStream 600watt PSU(almost identical to the GameXStream line, built on the same platform), they found that it can actually put out 728watts without a problem, which is really amazing for a power supply rated at 600watts.  

Good luck on the build.  If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask them. 

Most of the times (keyword most) lol, we go by brand name. A PSU is the #1 compent in a build and should be taken into consderatin once you know what kinda of performance you'll want out of your new machine. Good brand tend to by antec, pc power and cooling, and ocz. Others also include coasiar. Rosewill from those reviews seems to be a good choice. I have never used one so I wouldnt put my word behind there product but seems like a good choice.

Also you can tell a good psu by its effeciency rating. The good psu ones for gamers, and ocers have a effeiciency rating above 80%. This means you average output from the psu if its a 600 watt is 480 or above. 600 watts is its peak performance according to companies testing.

Generally most of the time when you buy a case and it comes with a psu its not oh high quality, and exception would be buy the coolermaster 830 evo with there 800 w psu included. But there are very few exceptions.

Kpaul, quick correction. When using a quality 600w PSU with an efficiency rating of say 80% at full load. The components will get 600w of power. The only difference between the 80% efficency and 65% efficiency, is how much power the PSU takes from the wall. A 80% efficient power supply will take 750w to operate; a 65% efficient power supply will take 923w to operate.

Kpaul:

Most of the times (keyword most) lol, we go by brand name. A PSU is the #1 compent in a build and should be taken into consderatin once you know what kinda of performance you'll want out of your new machine. Good brand tend to by antec, pc power and cooling, and ocz. Others also include coasiar. Rosewill from those reviews seems to be a good choice. I have never used one so I wouldnt put my word behind there product but seems like a good choice.

well, you can't just go by brand.  Some Rosewill power supplies are good, some are just complete junk.  Same with Antec.  Their True Power Quattro power supplies are good, but their SmartPower power supplies are cheaply made, and have a high failure rate. 

OCZ does sell a lot of power supplies for great prices, but their older (before december of last year) FSP-made power supplies(StealthXStream, GameXStream) had problems with ripple exceeding ATX specs.  Also, their GameXStream 1010watt power supply is falsely rated, by a couple hundred watts

PC P&C doesn't make bad power supplies, but some of their models have very loud fans.  Some reviewers have said that certain models sound like a hairdryer. 

To make it easier to quickly tell if a power supply is good or not, a tiered list of power supplies was developed at xtremesystems.org a couple years ago.  In it, the best power supplies were in tier 1, and the worst ones were in tier 5.  Essentially, you can fairly safely use anything tier 4 or higher, and if you're getting one, it's recommended that you pick one out in tier 3 or better. 

Since that list became quite outdated, some other eggxpert members and I have been working on updating and correcting it.  You can see the list here. 

If the power supply that you're planning to buy is listed there, tier 3 or higher, then go for it.  If it's tier 4, you may want to consider other power supplies, and if it's in tier 5, definitely get something else.  It is certainly quicker than trying to find a good review on the internet, if the power supply is listed there. 

 

Kpaul:

Also you can tell a good psu by its effeciency rating. The good psu ones for gamers, and ocers have a effeiciency rating above 80%. This means you average output from the psu if its a 600 watt is 480 or above. 600 watts is its peak performance according to companies testing.

well, I wouldn't exactly say that.  It is true that many of the junk power supplies have low efficiency, but some good power supplies also have low efficiency.  For example, the Apevia Warlock 900watt power supply has efficiency that peaks at 87%, but it is not a good power supply.  On the other hand, some of the older Seventeam power supplies have relatively low efficiency, yet they are still high quality power supplies. 

Also,  SergeiV is correct.  If you have a 600watt power supply with 80% efficiency, it can put out 600watts of power.  The efficiency only comes into play when you want to know how much power it's drawing from the wall plug(more then 600watts).

Kpaul:

Generally most of the time when you buy a case and it comes with a psu its not oh high quality, and exception would be buy the coolermaster 830 evo with there 800 w psu included. But there are very few exceptions.

yeah, that coolermaster case PSU combo is very good.  Also, some antec cases come with an earthwatts power supply, and those are good seasonic-made power supplies.  Other than that, most PSU's that come with cases are not good.