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Building new computer, I need advice [very soon]
Last post 05-17-2008, 11:53 AM by FUR10N. 21 replies.
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05-16-2008, 9:10 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Building new computer, I need advice [very soon]
OK, I am building this new computer and my budget is $1,500. I build a few other computers before but this is the first one that I will be picking out all of the parts. I already have the parts picked out (they are subject to change), and I read some reviews on each, so they all seem pretty good to me. I just want to know if there will be any compatibility problems, and if there are other better components out there for similar prices. I intend to use it for gaming and programming. Any suggestions of parts to change or advice is welcome. Link (fixed) thanks
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| Budget:1500 | VGA:EVGA 9800 GTX (512MB) | Monitor:dual 19" Hanns-G |
| MB:GA-p35-ds3l | OS:Vista Ultimate 64 | Browser: |
| CPU:intel Core 2 quad q6600 @ 2.4 ghz | Sound:onbard | Purpose:mostly gaming |
| Memory:Gskill (2 x 2GB) ddr2 1066 | PSU:PC Power & Cooling 750W | Brand:anything good |
| HD:already have 500gb sata | Cooling:5 case fans, and 1 cpu cooler | Misc:I don't care to have Sli or crossfire |
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05-16-2008, 9:27 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
You can get a 5ms HannsG with better viewing angles for less. Link I'd probably also end up going with 8GB of a little slower memory for a little more $, instead of 4GB. Link
Just have to make sure you have a 64bit OS to make use of the memory. Also, there's a very slight chance that you might run into a problem with clearance issues when floping open that motherboard tray with the Freezer 7 Pro installed.....or maybe it's just my eyes. heh
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05-16-2008, 9:32 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Here's what I'm referring to as far as the heatsink goes.
Just imagine, the Freezer 7 Pro is about an inch shorter than the heatsink shown above, and if there was a motherboard tray that would swing out in such scenario. The heatsink would hit up against the power supply in the Raidmax case you're considering.
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05-16-2008, 9:45 AM |
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Wasper
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Joined on 04-10-2007
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Golden EggXpert
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
HI,
Overall great build.
Funny.. I was thinking the Monitors aswell. Like SergeiV said, if you want to stick to a non-wide screen, then the one he linked to does have better veiwing angles. But, keep in mind that the model that was linked to does not have a DVI input.. and that can be a pain becuase you got to put an adaptor on your video card output.. making it stick out further from the back of the case.
If you want to go wide screen, then you can get a much better picture quality overall.
Take a look at this one... Hanns·G HW-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers - Retail
That monitor has some better features then the original you picked... it has better viewing angles, its a bit more brighter,the pixel pitch is bit tighter.. giving a crisper image and it draws less power. Its a nice monitor really for $5 more a-piece.
I actually own the non-widescreen version Hanns-G monitor you have in your wishlist, and it is a nice monitor..Im happy with it and if you cant go wide screen (space requirements?) then its a fine choice.. But some days I wish I had a wide-screen, theres nothing like gameing on a widescreen.. and even doing word processing and spread sheet is nice, you can fit alot more word on the screen.
again.. nice build, yuoll be happy with it.
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05-16-2008, 9:54 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Well the reason I picked that Hanns-G was because it had a DVI port which is what the video card had, so are their any noticeable differences with using DVI vs. the D-SUB? As for the memory, would DDR2 800 work seamlessly with the same motherboard or would I have to pick out a new motherboard also? I read the reviews for the case and I was aware of the fact that the cooler would get in the way, I just picked out the case for its looks and other features. Thanks for the advice, keep it coming :) edit: yeah I was thinking about going with dual widescreen monitors, but I'm moving into a doom soon so I wasn't sure that 2 widescreens would fit, and I know that two standard ones would fit, but I may take a look at the one you linked to wasper
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05-16-2008, 9:54 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
That's a good point Wasper regarding the VGA. I just looked up the the Hanns-G monitor I bought one and a half years ago, and coincidentally it's the same one as yours and one in OP's wishlist. So yea, go with the one in your wishlist, it's great, just don't use the monitor's speakers, heh. P.S. I never noticed the specs on the viewing angles...wow. Anyways, that hasn't impacted my gaming experience.
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05-16-2008, 10:05 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
FUR10N:As for the memory, would DDR2 800 work seamlessly with the same motherboard or would I have to pick out a new motherboard also?
The memory should work with no problem. Also, here's a TomsHardware article showing performance differences between different RAM speeds in games (and other apps).
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05-16-2008, 10:23 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122 I may switch to 8GB of ^this^ ram, it's DDR2 800 and the timings are 5-5-5-15 One of the reviews said that you need to make sure that you can change the timings manually in the motherboard
so would that new RAM and the current motherboard (in my wish list) work properly (even though the RAM is 800 and the motherboard is 1066)? I just need to make sure that it will do.
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05-16-2008, 10:27 AM |
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Wasper
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Golden EggXpert
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Hi,
That MB supports 667/800/1066 memory... I agree, 800 is best price/performance.
All the G.skill memory I have owned at those timeings ( quite a few sets) never needed to be set in the bios.. I just pop them in and they work at the advertised timeings. I never owned that MB you picked, but I dont see it being a problem, its mostly lower latencies that have problems..ie 4-4-4-12 timeings.
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05-16-2008, 10:34 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
thanks, I also have a question about the power supply, the one I picked was 750W for what I'm doing and for what I'm planning on getting, is that power supply good enough, or complete overkill? and I didn't see any size specs, so I'm guessing it will fit in my case..
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05-16-2008, 10:36 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Guys, check this out..... 4GB G.SKILL 240-Pin DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) for $85 Edit: The PSU will work just fine. Edit 2: Actually, looking at the case, there is some silver box that's protruding out behind where the power supply will go, which might be in conflict since the PC Power & Cooling power supply is longer than standard PSUs.
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05-16-2008, 10:54 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
yeah I just went back and looked at the pictures and I noticed that too. But when looking at the picture of the back of the case it looks like the PSU would be far enough away from the motherboard tray to not hit it. but thats just what it looks like to me. I looked at the ddr2 1000 and when I went to do a motherboard power search for DDR2 1000 memory standard there wasn't an option.. but I may be somewhat noobish when it comes to this
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05-16-2008, 11:06 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
I just checked the reviews for the motherboard and one person said that they had the Q6600 and DDR2-1000 and that it worked fine, so I guess I'm all right there (sorry if I'm being a bit paranoid about this but I really want it to work the first time)
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05-16-2008, 4:57 PM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
you shouldn't worry about memory speeds so much, 667/800/1066 doesn't mean it can only run at those speeds, its just listing standard speeds that work (basically, anything up to the highest speed the board supports should work fine, at least as far as judging by speed, occasionally certain combinations of mobo's and RAM don't play nice together)
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05-16-2008, 6:06 PM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
thanks, I was unsure, but that clears it up. Also, what's the difference between Vista Ultimate System Builder and the standard Ultimate edition I know that the differences are with the licensing, but what exactly are the differences, and which one should I get? I'm leaning toward the cheaper one.
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05-16-2008, 8:06 PM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
one is retail, one is OEM the difference boils down to if you install the OEM version on a new computer (even if the old one is dead/destroyed/whatever), Vista gets mad at you (so get the retail version if you think you are going to be switching computers a lot or something)
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05-16-2008, 10:43 PM |
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Zerk
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EggXpert
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
As for the psu, you may want to check out the combo deal with your gpu for the corsair 750. It too is a good quality psu and with the deal would be $50 cheaper $60 after mir. There is also a combo deal with your mobo and cpu. Can get $20 of the oem vista ultimate with a combo deal on your case as well if you decide to go that route. I personally would get the oem as by the time you need to replace this rig, a new windows will probably be out.
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05-17-2008, 5:56 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Thanks, I forgot all about the combo deals, but I do have a question about the Corsair 750: Does it have the right connectors for my CPU? I looked at all the other connectors and they looked adequate.
And the 20+4 Pin vs. the 24 Pin main connector doesn't changing anything right? I think I may definitely go with the corsair now because the $100 off on the PC Power and Cooler PSU ended yesterday :( edit: the Corsair PSU has 4 x 6+2 Pin PCIe connectors and my graphics card needs 2 x 6 pin connectors, is the +2 just a converter to an 8 pin connector? In other words will it fit?
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05-17-2008, 7:02 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
Memory standard is DDR2-800, you go on motherboard BIOS and alter clock speeds to achieve 1000 or 1066, that means you're overclocking memory controller to achieve rated mem speeds.
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05-17-2008, 7:52 AM |
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
FUR10N:Thanks, I forgot all about the combo deals, but I do have a question about the Corsair 750: Does it have the right connectors for my CPU? I looked at all the other connectors and they looked adequate.
And the 20+4 Pin vs. the 24 Pin main connector doesn't changing anything right? I think I may definitely go with the corsair now because the $100 off on the PC Power and Cooler PSU ended yesterday :( edit: the Corsair PSU has 4 x 6+2 Pin PCIe connectors and my graphics card needs 2 x 6 pin connectors, is the +2 just a converter to an 8 pin connector? In other words will it fit?
in short, yes, it will fit
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05-17-2008, 8:05 AM |
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FUR10N
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Embryo
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Re: Building a new computer and I need some advice
I decided to go with this 22" Acer what would I have to do to get my xBox 360 to work with this monitor?
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05-17-2008, 11:53 AM |
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