EggXpert.com

The platform that enables you to build rich, interactive communities
Welcome to eggXpert.com. Sign in | Join | Help
in Search
Advanced Search

AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

Last post 02-19-2008, 10:20 PM by slmclarengt. 27 replies.
Page 1 of 2 (28 items)   1 2 Next >
Sort Posts: Previous Next
  •  02-18-2008, 11:08 AM 269126

    AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Dell and HP are set to start loading them in prebuilt systems.  Athlon X2's to be discontinued from Dell's lineup. 

    See the article on DailyTech for more info.  http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Triplecore+Phenom+Processors+Inbound/article10738.htm

  •  02-18-2008, 11:49 AM 269145 in reply to 269126

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    I read somewhere, maybe here, that the tri cores are a quad core with a dead core. Something about instead of scrapping a quad core with 1 dead core, AMD would just sell it as a tri core. I can't remember where I read that.

    Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Black Edition
    Zalman CNPS 9700 LED CPU Cooler
    OCZ OCZ2N800SR4GK 4GB(2 x GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
    NZXT Nemesis Elite Black
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous
    Windows XP Professional x64
  •  02-18-2008, 11:57 AM 269151 in reply to 269145

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    if thats true and i hope its not then thats a really bad sign of amd's quality of production if they're stocked for a huge launch


    folding for my dad, granpa, and uncle who all suffered and passed from non curable diseases
    evga 680i-q9300@3.2-2x2gig sticks gskill 900mhz 4-4-4-12-pcpc 750watt psu-sli'd 9600gt's-antec p180 case-vista home premium 64bit
  •  02-18-2008, 12:06 PM 269161 in reply to 269151

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Yeah, their is truth in the fact that AMD will be releasing tri-cores and yes, they will be quad-cores essentially with one "dead core" and no, you cannot just "Re-activate" the core just for future reference all that easily Stick out tongue

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-memory/news/2007/09/17/AMD-To-Sell-Tri-Core-Processors/p1

    I read it somewhere else too but too many articles to recap, so little time.

    I think the tri-core with one dead core can be a great thing as well as a terrible curse. One dead core means less heat for the same surface area on the die, which will in turn allow higher clock speeds with less heat. On the flip side, it's almost stupid to just disable one core, but it seems to be the best plan of action; I'm just wondering what exactly their pricing scheme will look like because if priced well, that may really be quite tempting for some people because it's got the power of 3-cores not 2 or 4 and keeps nice and cool (presumably moreso than 4 cores) and should be hopefully more overclockable and run at higher clock speeds without a problem.

    Maybe they will satiate our desire for an unlocked multiplier with at least one processor in this generation hopefully yielding high results unlike the 6400+ BE and 9600 BE.

    Disabling one core is probably better than redesigning the entire architecture for one mid-high range processor line. I think they should be alright as long as profitability is still a high priority and they price these well to make money, perform and sell well. 

    Slmclarengt 


    My website: BnDClan.com - Gaming Community - visit us!
    Vista64/Ubuntu8.04/XP
    AMD 5600 @ 3Ghz/KN9 SLI/8600GT (737/1815/1820)/6GB RAM @ 4-4-4-12/500GB WD/250GB Maxtor/250GB SG/Ultra XVS 600W/3DMark06: 6534/Dual Samsung 906BW 19" 2ms
  •  02-18-2008, 12:11 PM 269165 in reply to 269161

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    ok thats not so bad as long as they meant for it to be a dead core to start with, which in that case i say bring on the three wayYes i'd like to check one out if not badly priced and decent performance myself


    folding for my dad, granpa, and uncle who all suffered and passed from non curable diseases
    evga 680i-q9300@3.2-2x2gig sticks gskill 900mhz 4-4-4-12-pcpc 750watt psu-sli'd 9600gt's-antec p180 case-vista home premium 64bit
  •  02-18-2008, 12:15 PM 269171 in reply to 269165

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Yeah three way action is awesome! Woohoo

    Just the evil waiting game again OldMan 

    Slmclarengt 


    My website: BnDClan.com - Gaming Community - visit us!
    Vista64/Ubuntu8.04/XP
    AMD 5600 @ 3Ghz/KN9 SLI/8600GT (737/1815/1820)/6GB RAM @ 4-4-4-12/500GB WD/250GB Maxtor/250GB SG/Ultra XVS 600W/3DMark06: 6534/Dual Samsung 906BW 19" 2ms
  •  02-18-2008, 12:17 PM 269172 in reply to 269171

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    are they going to be optimized for am2 or am2+ boards? just curious as to the proper hardware would need to be


    folding for my dad, granpa, and uncle who all suffered and passed from non curable diseases
    evga 680i-q9300@3.2-2x2gig sticks gskill 900mhz 4-4-4-12-pcpc 750watt psu-sli'd 9600gt's-antec p180 case-vista home premium 64bit
  •  02-18-2008, 1:19 PM 269225 in reply to 269172

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    It will be "optimized for AM2+" but of course backwards-compatible with some older AM2 socket motherboards (if the BIOS chip can support the new CPU IDs).

    Slmclarengt 


    My website: BnDClan.com - Gaming Community - visit us!
    Vista64/Ubuntu8.04/XP
    AMD 5600 @ 3Ghz/KN9 SLI/8600GT (737/1815/1820)/6GB RAM @ 4-4-4-12/500GB WD/250GB Maxtor/250GB SG/Ultra XVS 600W/3DMark06: 6534/Dual Samsung 906BW 19" 2ms
  •  02-18-2008, 2:02 PM 269268 in reply to 269126

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Its kinda like tripod the dog.  Cute but I wouldn't want one
  •  02-18-2008, 2:16 PM 269284 in reply to 269225

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    The reasoning behind disabling one of the cores is derived from profit. In each wafer full of future CPU's there are are going to be chips that do make the cut due to some type of defect. In some cases, they will be able route off and mask around a single defected core and still be able to deliver three working cores connected to the same L3 cache. Both AMD and Intel have done this in the past with Celeron and Sempron chips. Those were often taken from a wafer of Pentium or Athlon processors and like above, had some type of defect. In the case of those, they could route off and mask around defective cache and still have a working processor - with less cache.

    This keeps so many chips from hitting the trash bin, creating zero profit, and also hopefully gives you a good performing product for the price. 


  •  02-18-2008, 5:20 PM 269419 in reply to 269268

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    wfinney:
    Its kinda like tripod the dog.  Cute but I wouldn't want one

     

    That's such a great ananlogy. LOL.

    I think I'd try one, but I have to give my appreciation to that analogy.


    Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Black Edition
    Zalman CNPS 9700 LED CPU Cooler
    OCZ OCZ2N800SR4GK 4GB(2 x GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
    NZXT Nemesis Elite Black
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous
    Windows XP Professional x64
  •  02-18-2008, 5:31 PM 269430 in reply to 269268

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    I'm waiting on these Tri-Cores to come in, "The WorD" is it will be in March of this year. I'm not expecting it perform like Intel, but I mean come on it's a 3 way.. Wink
  •  02-18-2008, 8:06 PM 269527 in reply to 269430

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Here is a chart I found from HKEPC. http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-02-01/2008020112591151452978954.jpg


    They are usually very reliable for marketing information. 

  •  02-18-2008, 8:12 PM 269531 in reply to 269527

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    They should give dedicated customers some to try. I'd be down

    Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Black Edition
    Zalman CNPS 9700 LED CPU Cooler
    OCZ OCZ2N800SR4GK 4GB(2 x GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
    NZXT Nemesis Elite Black
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous
    Windows XP Professional x64
  •  02-18-2008, 8:32 PM 269551 in reply to 269284

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    cman:

    The reasoning behind disabling one of the cores is derived from profit. In each wafer full of future CPU's there are are going to be chips that do make the cut due to some type of defect. In some cases, they will be able route off and mask around a single defected core and still be able to deliver three working cores connected to the same L3 cache. Both AMD and Intel have done this in the past with Celeron and Sempron chips. Those were often taken from a wafer of Pentium or Athlon processors and like above, had some type of defect. In the case of those, they could route off and mask around defective cache and still have a working processor - with less cache.

    This keeps so many chips from hitting the trash bin, creating zero profit, and also hopefully gives you a good performing product for the price. 


    What he said ^^^.  I predict that the Phenom Tri Cores will be to the AMD lineup like what the Celeron Dual Cores will be to Intel.  As Phenoms come further and further into play and as the Athlon X2 series is slowly killed off, the tri core Phenoms will wind up being the low end solution for AMD CPU's.  That is unless AMD comes out with it's own dual core Sempron to compete more with Intel's low end. 

    Look at it this way, in two years the only processors we will be able to purchase anymore will be multi core CPU's.  If Intel's low end is the dual core Celeron, and AMD's is the tri core Phenom, and they are both priced about the same, who will be winning the low end CPU market? 

    Granted this is all just speculation on my part, but I could very easily see it happening. 

  •  02-18-2008, 8:37 PM 269555 in reply to 269551

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    BTW, anybody have any projected priceing for the Phenom Tri Cores? 

    Seeing as how I am always broke, I wouldn't mind stepping up my current CPU to one of these new Tri Cores here soon. 

  •  02-18-2008, 9:13 PM 269581 in reply to 269555

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Don't forget about the dual-core processors to come from AMD. Phenom based "Kuma" will be sold as Athlon X2. They were originally stated to be part of the Phenom launch but AMD has decided to keep them under the Athlon name. They also pushed them back a couple of quarters. Launch for those should be Q2 2008

    The 6250 and 6050 are "Kuma" dual core processors.

    http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Adds_Kuma_%26_Lima_To_Athlon_Brand/5336.html

    The second I get word on pricing from a reliable source, I will post back.

  •  02-18-2008, 10:47 PM 269632 in reply to 269581

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Im still not impressed, I wanna see some higher clocked phenoms already. Tri core looks somewhat promising though.

    IN OTHER NEWS, core2duo e8400 just hit 5.0ghz!

     

    Like cmon, Intel is making so much more progress. Seems as if AMD is slacking so much. 


    The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. ~Vance Havne



    Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go. ~T.S. Eliot
  •  02-18-2008, 11:35 PM 269651 in reply to 269632

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    Sounds kinda silly to be, tri-core? what is the point.

    FloorTheCore - Massive collection of PC Hardware reviews. Create and Submit your own!
  •  02-19-2008, 6:46 AM 269734 in reply to 269651

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    The point is a good processor being sold to the market that otherwise would have been just tossed into the garbage can. 
  •  02-19-2008, 10:34 AM 269839 in reply to 269734

    Re: AMD Tri-Core Phenoms Inbound!!!!

    RjBass:
    The point is a good processor being sold to the market that otherwise would have been just tossed into the garbage can. 

     

    Yea, it's brilliant from a business perspective.


    Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Black Edition
    Zalman CNPS 9700 LED CPU Cooler
    OCZ OCZ2N800SR4GK 4GB(2 x GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
    NZXT Nemesis Elite Black
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous
    Windows XP Professional x64