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Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

IronLemur — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 03:15:30 GMT

Look at ACTA, everyone thinks we "won" by killing SOPA but that was just the beginning. Govt is already supporting ACTA and using loopholes to avoid a vote. Its sad but whoever has the dollar has the power. Chris Dodd even admits it: http://www.salon.com/2012/01/23/dodd_accused_of_bribery_over_sopa_remarks/

Everyone blames the president or the democrats/republicans but lobbyists are what is really killing this country.

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

MarkedOne — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:38:34 GMT

Anyway in few years it will not be only Internet censorship, it will be OS and applications censorship too, Windows 8 is probably the last OS you will install on a PC Microsoft is working in their last step of their total control of peoples, Midori; Midori will be the next OS, it will work on Microsoft Servers, you will have to install your applications on Microsoft Servers, Application you will rent from Microsoft, or someone authorize by Microsoft. It’s sad to say but the next Emperor will be Microsoft, they will rules everything we do with our data. It’s’ why you have to say no to Windows 8, it’s only the start, by default, with Windows 8 your favorites, your setting, are all store in Microsoft servers. Microsoft want company to use Office 365, it’s not their first attempt to cloud Office, If you Install Windows 2011 Small Business Server, you have the Launchpad with a link to Office 365, try to remove it for fun. You like to build PCs, do it before you will not able to do so. Even Microsoft try to block the BIOS to make it work only with Microsoft, of course they have some resistance, but this is what they will want to do. Do you know Intel will make 30% profit on every Metro apps sold in their store, and no one can sell them outside the Microsoft store, it's for secirity reason, sound like the BS Apple is doing for many years; "We do it to make sure everything is compatible"

The real treat to our liberty is Microsoft. ( few years ago I will have never believe I will say so one day)

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

MewMint — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:00:49 GMT

gandalf91:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/01/19/anonymous-hackers-claims-attack-on-doj-universal-music-and-riaa-after-megaupload-takedown/

Two months later, Megaupload's founder provides his first interview after being arrested

I'm especially surprised by the fact that the music studios and movie studios had direct delete access to every file on Megaupload. So he seems to be on trial for failing to do what they also couldn't do?

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

MarkedOne — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:48:54 GMT

let's put a end to internet sensorship. let's get all a 56k modem and let's return to BBS (buletin board servers)

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

MewMint — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:41:04 GMT

I think Games of Thrones is probably the best book to tv adaptation I've seen to date. It's very good. I like the casting and while it moves through everything quite rapidly, it doesn't miss much and doesn't feel rushed. It's very much a complete and well told story.

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

lordmaynoth — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:16:08 GMT

somehow I left out the middle panel

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

lordmaynoth — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:13:55 GMT

On the topic of ethical piracy, I saw this and thought products might like it:

This is exactly how I feel, I would gladly pay for things if it were made possible for me to legally consume media how I choose to do so.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

MewMint — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:23:19 GMT

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

ladytekki — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:09:11 GMT

Well, both laws are 'tabled' for the time being http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16655272

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

products — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:59:46 GMT

gandalf91:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/01/19/anonymous-hackers-claims-attack-on-doj-universal-music-and-riaa-after-megaupload-takedown/

wow. o_O

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

products — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:57:18 GMT

lordmaynoth:
Piracy could be eliminated by making it pointless and irreverent, but greed is preventing this.

Hm...... if they didn't mind making zero dollars then yes, piracy would not exist. well, I am not comfortable with the idea that the government should be able to shut down something without any due process just to protect the economic interest of the large industry. On the other hand, I am also not sure if copyright holders should be forced to lower the prices to compete against piracy sites who make money off of piracy activities either, or forced to lower prices because of the piracy fear either. It's like going to Texas or Arizona and telling people to accept 5 dollars an hour wage so that they will be competitive against illegal workers from South America. "you are not competitive because you are too greedy to take 5 dollars an hour" You know? lol. Law enforcement + due process makes most sense to me personally. If they charge too much, then people won't buy not because they can get the same things cheaper illegally but because they don't think the commodity is worth the dollar they get charged. That's how it used to work in the analog days, and sounds more fair to me.....

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

gandalf91 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:29:54 GMT

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/01/19/anonymous-hackers-claims-attack-on-doj-universal-music-and-riaa-after-megaupload-takedown/

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

lordmaynoth — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:56:17 GMT

Back in the analog days, TV and radio brought in tons of money via advertising and you could view or listen for free.

People still bought vhs tapes of shows they liked even though they could copy them from a video rental store, same goes for taping songs of the radio.

There is plenty of money to be made. Look at nine inch nails, look at radiohead, look at louis CK. They allowed users to pay what they wanted for basic downloads and offered deluxe versions of their albums, it was highly profitable.

Piracy could be eliminated by making it pointless and irreverent, but greed is preventing this.

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

products — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:46:25 GMT

lordmaynoth:
If they could embrace change and evolve their business models they could earn more money than they did before, and render piracy irrelevant. But this all boils down to greed, they won't be satisfied with a low monthly fee from all Americans and advertising based revenue.

They don't mind adapting and they have. But they can't make as much money. The internet has more addresses than the number of TV channels, their adaptation strategies would be charging hell a lot for an album to make the same amount they used to make. Or charging you a lot for accessing Lastfm, VEVO and so on. Gimme 60 dollars a month for unlimited access, gimme 30 dollars for up to 15 hours a week. And completely blocking piracy that could result from overcharging. So that they can buy banner spaces on many of the websites just to get the same 'probability" of their stuff shown to you that they used to have in the 90's on TV.. Quite frankly, I think that's the direction they'd like to go with the above proposed move though I don't think they can make as much as they used to anyway.

Re: Say hello to internet censorship!

lordmaynoth — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:02:27 GMT

I want to be able to watch anything anytime, listen to anything anytime, read anything any time, and play anything anytime (single player), all for one monthly fee and or advertising based revenue.

For years television and radio have been free to anyone with antenna's, and everyone still got paid via advertising.

Now in the age of the internet they are freaking out because they refuse to adapt, they want people to buy an physical tangible products, when that is not how they wish to consume for the most part.

If they could embrace change and evolve their business models they could earn more money than they did before, and render piracy irrelevant. But this all boils down to greed, they won't be satisfied with a low monthly fee from all Americans and advertising based revenue.

Look at Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, and Louis C.K. they all released a pay what you want model for downloads and succeeded in making handsome profits. Nine inch nails also sold deluxe collectors edition albums which sold in record amounts.

People who are fans will buy the product, everyone still makes money.