EggXpert

Hello folks!

 So this will be the first computer that i have ever built...or will build. Bellow are all the parts that i think will work and i was wondering if anyone out there could double check to see if this will work or if i have missed any parts that i need to build a computer. I will be using my old dvd and cd drives as well as my old sound card.

 The purpose for this system is to render computer graphics( see some of what i have done here http://scorpio-empire.deviantart.com/ ) My current system has 2 gigs of ram on a pentium 4 system. My current system wont let me create art pieces that are over 2 million polygons so thats why i have added so much ram to this system. It takes several days to render some of my art and i would like to cut down the render time to a small fraction of what it takes now.

I have added to pairs of 3d glasses because me and my wife enjoy 3d movies so i am trying to make this a art and entertainment computer. On reading these post i may upgrade to a larger hard drive but i rarely keep more than 100 gigs of data on my pc

 

 

 I appreciate ANY help anyone is willing to give me and thank you all for your time!!!! 

 

Qty.	Product Description		Savings	Total Price
1		D-Link WDA-1320 32-bit PCI Wireless G Desktop Adapter Item #: N82E16833127080 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$10.30 Instant	$39.99 $29.69
1		Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory Model KHX1800C9D3T1K3/6GX Item #: N82E16820104124 Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy		$160.99
1		Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory Model KHX1800C9D3T1FK3/6GX Item #: N82E16820104125 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$162.99
1		Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3160813AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Item #: N82E16822148397 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$39.99
1		ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ ERV1050EWT 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Compatible w/Core i7 Modular Active PFC Power Supply Item #: N82E16817194039 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$40.00 Instant $45.00 Mail-in Rebate Card	$325.99 $285.99
1		COOLER MASTER R4-S2S-124K-GP 120mm Case Fan Item #: N82E16835103052 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$15.84
1		COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case Item #: N82E16811119150 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$199.99
1		ViewSonic X Series VX2265wm Black 22" 3ms(GTG), 5ms 120Hz 3D Ready Widescreen LCD Monitor Item #: N82E16824116402 Return Policy: Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy	-$50.00 Instant	$299.99 $249.99
1		EVGA 017-P3-1175-AR GeForce GTX 275 1792MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 SLI Supported Video Card Item #: N82E16814130476 Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy	-$10.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate	$299.99 $289.99
1		ASUS P6TD Deluxe LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813131403 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy		$289.99
2		NVIDIA 942-10701-0003-000 3D Vision Glasses Item #: N82E16824994036 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy		$399.98
1		Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601950 Item #: N82E16819115211 Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy		$569.99
1		CORSAIR CWCH50 Water Cooler Item #: N82E16835181009 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$79.99

 

There is some wasted money in this build. Loose the glasses and use that money to beef up the lcd to a samsung 24in one. No need for the 600$ cpu as you can push a 920 to those clocks pretty easily, 12gbs of ram will never be used.

I prefer Gigabyte boards over Asus boards as they are not as picky with memory and usually perform better overall. Right now the Gigabyte UD5 is out of stock but I would wait for that to come back in stock and pick that one up.

No need to get the fans as the Cosmos comes with all the needed fans and the stock fans that comes with it are very good. I owned that case and really loved it.

Complete overkill on the psu. You can run that build on a 750w Corsair of if you want a bit more then get the Corsair 850.

You have really wasted a lot of money on things that you don't need. Glad you haven't bought it yet

 

you've got some choice hardware for the making of a killer rig, and you're gonna stick a 160GB Hd on it? do you have others or something?

Sparker's right, get a 920, but Newegg won't guarentee a D0 step. You can get it elsewhere, but you could pay upwards of the price of this Intel Xeon W3520 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Server Processor Model BX80601W3520 , which is a D0.

Use some of that money saved for a 1TB Hd with 32MB buffer. Can't go wrong and you'll have plenty of space for some time. Can't go wrong with these: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive . if you want to take it to the next level, there's always a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive , or maybe a SSD.

No need for 2nd 6GB of memory (+1)

Penewah!

Thank you very much for the time you took to look at my plans 

The purpose for this system is to render computer graphics( see some of what i have done here http://scorpio-empire.deviantart.com/ ) My current system has 2 gigs of ram on a pentium 4 system. My current system wont let me create art pieces that are over 2 million polygons so thats why i have added so much ram to this system. It takes several days to render some of my art and i would like to cut down the render time to a small fraction of what it takes now. also me and my wife enjoy 3d movies so i was king of hopeing to make this an art and entertainment station.

With that in mind do you think i should still get rid of the ram? Oh and i know nothing about over clocking .... 

I prefer the idea to get a Samsung LCD. top of the heap. Wow, you are buying  3D Vision Glasses drools

Hope you enjoy the 3D vision. If you could spend $300 for a glasses,then get a high quality LCD. :-) 

That is a fine build though a little bit extravagent and as others have said a lot of overkill. The PSU is way to much an 850 watter will handle even dual VCs and a little 160 gig HDD at 8mb cache a 128 gig SSD would be more beneficial to you with its read and write speeds add to that no mechanical parts low heat and no noise. Now if you want a powerful VC at least get 1 with a HDMI connector on it for better video quality and to take full advantage of the VC's abilities and add a 1920 X 1200 resolution LCD monitor with the corresponding HDMI connector. Now the last thing I will comment on is the mobo, I too would recomend the Gigabyte UD5 and it is back in stock and look thru the combo deals and save some cash to add the stuff you truly need to make this a great build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.253006 Mobo & CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010380048&OEMMark=0&PropertyCodeValue=696%3A33099%2C3209%3A23120%2C691%3A9631%2C691%3A9630%2C2953%3A18922&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=False&CompareItemList=N82E16814161301%2CN82E16814102856%2CN82E16814127443 VC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010090058&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1459%2C1550%2C9830&PropertyCodeValue=1314%3A28170%2C1315%3A9966&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=False&CompareItemList=N82E16817139009%2CN82E16817139011%2CN82E16817703013%2CN82E16817341025%2CN82E16817341026 PSUs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201106209153%201288924671&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=N82E16824236047%2CN82E16824002359 Monitors

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231256 SSD

sparker366 :

I prefer Gigabyte boards over Asus boards as they are not as picky with memory and usually perform better overall.

Agreed.

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My only comment,as you have,up to this point,gotten great advice,would be to stay away from Seagate drives like the plague. Up until a couple of years ago they were definately the go-to HDD.Any more they are having to be returned like they were made in China for the dollar store.I have thrown out all my Seagates and use ONLY Western Digital.Unless you enjoy paying shipping back and forth returning them,I reccomend you do the same.Just my $0.02 worth.Enjoy your new toy.

Taking most of the recommendations listed from everyone and adding a few of my own, here is what you end up with.

Grand Total including the $48.09 shipping charge in the Shopping Cart is $2,801.94.

Qty.	Product Description	Savings	Total Price
1	SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - OEM Item #: N82E16827151187 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$31.99
1	ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail Item #: N82E16824236047 Return Policy: Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy	-$30.00 Instant $30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card24-236-047	$329.99 $299.99
1	ENCORE ENLWI-N PCI 2.3 Wireless Adapter - Retail Item #: N82E16833180052 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$5.00 Instant	$39.99 $34.99
1	ICY DOCK MB882SP-1S-1B 2.5" to 3.5" SSD & SATA Hard Drive Converter - Black - Retail Item #: N82E16817994064 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$24.99
1	SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail Item #: N82E16814102856 Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy		$379.99
1	CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail Item #: N82E16817139009 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$20.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card17-139-009	$159.99 $139.99
1	IMC IMC-black USB 2.0 Card Reader - Retail Item #: N82E16820717001 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$7.99 Saving	$7.99 $0.00
1	Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM Item #: N82E16835100007 Return Policy: Consumable Item Standard Return Policy		$6.99
1	mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 998675 - Retail Item #: N82E16820226032 Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy		$152.99
1	GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Item #: N82E16813128362 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy	-$20.00 Instant	$298.99 $278.99
1	SUPER TALENT MasterDrive SX SAM56GM25S 2.5" 256GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Retail Item #: N82E16820609462 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy		$628.00
1	Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM Item #: N82E16822136283 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Nippon Labs Premium 18" (1.5 ft.) SATA II Cable with locking latch for SATA I and SATA II Hard Drive Model SATA-L0.5-R - Retail Item #: N82E16812816027 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$6.99 Combo	$86.98 $79.99
1	Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail Item #: N82E16819115202 Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail Item #: N82E16835233029 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy	-$9.00 Instant -$10.00 Combo	$333.97 $314.97
1	COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail Item #: N82E16811119150 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM Item #: N82E16832116678 Return Policy: Software Return Policy	-$10.00 Combo	$389.98 $379.98
Subtotal:			$2,753.85
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Grand Total:			$2,801.94

This is almost $200.00 under your limit of $3,000.00.

The Gigabyte UD5 motherboard is back in stock. This is on Gigabyte's "Ultra Durable" (UD) line. These are some of the best motherboards out there right now.

The Cooler Master Cosmos case you wanted is here in a combo with Vista Ultimate 64-BIT that will give you a free "Upgrade" to Windows 7 Ultimate when it comes out later this month (around the 22nd).

The Intel Core i7 920 CPU is in a combo with the Xigmatek Dark Knight CPU Cooler. This is the most commonly used cooler for the i7 CPUs. Since the "goop" that comes with the Dark Knight isn't the best, I've included Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound. This goes between the CPU and the CPU cooler.

The memory is 6GB of Mushkin DDR3 1333MHz. with great timings of 6-6-6-18 needing 1.65 volts to get them there. This is some of the fastest DDR3 memory available.

Added the ASUS 25.5" HDMI 1080P monitor. This is one of the largest monitors available.

The power supply is the Corsair 850TX 850 watt power supply. This is a tier 2 supply on the Eggxpert Tiered Power Supply List. It has all the power you will need for this set-up. The USB card reader is a "freebie" with the power supply.

The video card is the Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB. This is pretty much the newest video card to come out of ATI. There won't be full driver support for it right away, but give it a month or 2 and it will be there. The 850 has enough power to run 2 of these cards if you want to put in a second one later on.

I included a Super Talent MasterDrive SX 256GB Solid State drive. This has Sequential Access - Read times of Up to 220MB/sec and Sequential Access - Write times of Up to 200MB/sec. There is the ICY DOCK MB882SP-1S-1B 2.5" to 3.5" SSD converter to put the SSD drive into. One of the reviews recommended taking the page file off the SSD drive and putting it on a standard hard drive. So a Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB hard drive with a 32mb cache is included. It is in a combo with the extra SATA cable you will need. The motherboard only comes with 2 cables and you have 3 SATA drives.

The Samsung 22x DVD burner will be fairly quiet and stable. If you want LightScribe, the SAMSUNG Black 22X SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support will cost you about $1.00 more.

Last but not least I put in the ENCORE ENLWI-N wireless card. This will handle B, G, and N with speeds reaching Up to 300Mbps using an N connection. I have this card in my youngest son's computer and it works great. A 64-BIT driver / software is down loadable from the Encore website with instructions on how to set it up.

Did I miss anything you wanted?

Good Luck With Your Build!

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Mark NØLXX
First computer built - 286-16 MHz. running DOS 3 and Windows 2.0 BETA
BBS SysOp for 6+ years (2 lines, 1 computer)
Antec Mini P180 + OCZ StealthXStream 500 watt
GIGABYTE MA78GM-S2H + AMD Phenom II 720 BE OCed to 3.4 + 8GB G.Skill PI Black DDR2 800 (CAS 4) +
Sapphire Radeon HD 4830 1GB + Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT

Some of these posts seem to be steering you towards a speed/gaming set up.... This is not optimum set up for rendering... A rule of thumb for a beginner build is to make sure the RAM you have chosen is on the mobo manufacturer recommended memory list (almost all manufasturers have a list for that particular board by brand and part number). Stick to basics so you don't have to worry about special settings in the bios as well as setting timings and voltages for your memory out of the box. This pays off because after you assemble everything, it should boot first time.      

I have to second the opinion on the Seagate drives.... But, For a few more dollars I would go to at least a 750GB or 1TB hard drive. (you will have to do a clean install to get things just right anyways)

You might also consider a different monitor... I have an Acer 24" that was very reasonable ($220). I think the Viewsonic is a little pricey. If you are determined to buy a high end monitor, I would get a Samsung 

Keep the processor...

An 750w - 800W power supply should be more than enough, unless you are going to run multiple video cards...

Keep the full amount of RAM you've chosen, this is not for gaming... Should help cut down rendering time...

Other than that go for it...

Time for my $0.02.  :)

Based on the information in this thread, I would also suggest keeping all of the RAM for speeding up the rendering but I would recommend getting it all from Mushkin using 12 GB total as you originally planned.  The faster timings may help with the rendering speeds as well.  The Corsair 850W PSU recommended is also a good choice.  I have a lower wattage model from them that is going strong in a friend's PC nearly 2 years after building the PC.  In that same PC is a Gigabyte mobo which has been rock solid.  As such, I second (or is it thirds? fourths?) the Gigabyte mobo.  For the same reason, I would recommend the SSD drive as a primary drive in the build along with a high powered GPU.  The 5870 appears to be a good card although I have not had time to read reviews on it yet.  For the processor, the 920 will still be a great improvement over a P4 in performance.

Regarding the Seagate drives, yes, they have had problems but so have WDs and so have other brands.  I would not recommend avoiding them altogether.  Instead read reviews and such to see if a particular model you may like is known for issues.  I do that for any components I buy, not just hard drives.  In the case of the Seagate problems, it was mainly a firmware issue which Seagate has since fixed.

One thing that I was looking at regarding your build is what will improve speeds.  In this case, the Mushkin memory timings being faster mean faster response to memory requirements, the SSD provided faster read and write times, the video card should improves the results of the rendering and possibly improve the speed at which the rendering is done.  (I'll admit I am not sure if the rendering is more CPU or GPU bound.)

carrizojim,

Regarding the set up not being optimized for rendering, the OP's primary complaint was the amount of time getting the rendering done so a build designed for fast performance should help.

Can't argue with that logic Tekran, that is one reason I stuck the SSD in the build and did not mention the RAM. Although if he does not go with a higher resolution monitor there is no point in wasting money on that highend 5870 VC and really that is more power than he will need a 4890 with 1gig will work fine or a 4870 with 1 gig would do it.