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  •  11-11-2007, 2:43 PM 199918

    What do you think..?

    Hi everyone. I'm getting a new computer for Christmas and I want to customize it myself so I don't waste money (like on an Alienware) but I am lost.
    I went onto www.cyberpowerpc.com and made up a quick rig, what do you think?
     
    CASE: Hot !!! Apevia X-Telstar Aluminum Full Tower 420W Case w/ Temp Display and Fan Control (Silver Color)
    CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 CPU @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
    MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
    MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
    VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
    LCD Monitor: ViewSonic Q19WB 19& quot; 5ms Response Time COLOR TFT Active Matrix WXGA LCD Display 1440x900 (Black)
    HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
    Data Hard Drive: NONE
    Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
    Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
    SOUND: New! Creative X-Fi XMOD USB External Sound Control
     
    That costs about $1600, my limit is about $2000. Are there any suggestions you have? I can totally change anything, so all suggestions are welcome. I want it to be a real heavy gaming computer that can last me a good while. Also I need good cooling because the computer is sitting in a room that can get very hot in the summer sooo tell me what you all think!
     
    Thanks!

    System Specs
    Budget:VGA:Monitor:
    MB:OS:Browser:
    CPU:Sound:CPU Pps:
    Memory:1 gigPSU:Brand:
    HD:Cooling:Misc:
  •  11-11-2007, 2:56 PM 199921 in reply to 199918

    Re: What do you think..?

    Looks good but if your going to all that exspence why not the 680i also what OS you planning on using. One thing I would like to reccomend is a bigger more powerful PSU 450 watts will not hack it powering all those componets you'll need at least a 650 watt minimum preferable a 750 watt single rail. I'll let you do some more research on that, otherwise looks like a good build.Wacko

    what goes around comes around

    (RIG)GA-EP45-UD3P, Q9550 @ 3.5 ghz, CM's V8, HD2600XT512mb 128bit, 4gigs OCZ 1066 ddr2, Seagate sata 120 gig & a 320 gig, 2 Liteon sata DVD Burner, My DIY Case, Corsair 550watt PSU, 2ea 19" LCD monitors.
  •  11-11-2007, 3:10 PM 199925 in reply to 199918

    Re: What do you think..?

    If you want long last system don't get the PSU that come with the case.  For 1600 dollars I am sure you can build better than the alienware.

    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 antec 900 $125

    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188019 EVGA 680i, I would advise Abit p35 pro if you don't plan to SLI.  Beware this motherboard doesn't support Quad cpu. $160

    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028 E6850 at 3.0Ghz $280

    Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076 Crucial tracer DDR2-800 $90.

    Video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303 Evga 8800GT $290

    LCD monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254024 Hann's-G 22" $215

    Sound Card: don't need

    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075 WD 160GB $50

    Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153 Samsung 20X $34

    Cpu cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118020 Zalman 9700NT $60

    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005 PCP&cooling 610watts $120

    total: $1424 not including shipping. 


    Q9650 @4.05Ghz 1.2125VID
    Gigabyte P45 UD3P rev1.1
    Prolimatech Megahalem + San Aces
    XFX GTX 260 Black Edition
    Mushkin Ascent 4GB @900MHZ
    HT Omega Claro Plus + Logitech Z-5500 + Energy 5.1 Speakers

  •  11-11-2007, 3:35 PM 199941 in reply to 199925

    Re: What do you think..?

    That EVGA mother board does support Quad cores it just doesn't overclock them well is all. Please file that away for future reference. I own that board and wouldn't have bought it if it didn't support Quad cores and the new penryns. I don't care about overclocking a system so it wasn't a factor for my build.

  •  11-11-2007, 3:53 PM 199956 in reply to 199941

    Re: What do you think..?

    Are you buying this PC from CyberPowerPc or were you just using their builder for reference? Just for reference, I added up your list and it came to about $1200 (with 2 much faster DVD-Rs). I'd say order the parts and build yourself, if you werent planning on it. heck, $400 gets you the other 8800GT to SLI and a nice PSU to power it, and your still not spending $2 grand. JMO.

    Penewah!


    Box 1:Xeon W3520 D0/HeatKiller 3.0/Feser Extreme 360 w/ 3x Gentle Typhoons 1850s/SWFT655/EVGA E760 Classified/ XFX GTX 285(Kool 285 block OTW)/CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX/ CM HAF /Corsair Domi's 3X2GB DDR3_2000/F1 Spinpoint 2x1TB-SATA/HT Omega Striker/ Build #2: Antec 1200/ E8500 @ 3.87 Ghz/Gigabyte P45-UD3P/ OCZ 4Gb Reapers PC2 9200/EAH4870 1GB/750W PCPC Quad Silncer/CM V10 1/2aTEC/ #3 Biostar 790GX/AMD 9950BE 3.2Ghz/OCZ Reapers 4GB 1066 /2.75Tbs of F1 Spinpoint/Corsair 550W PSU/
  •  11-11-2007, 8:20 PM 200145 in reply to 199918

    Re: What do you think..?

    Thanks all for the help but I'm pretty noob with this kinda thing so can you explain to me exactly what you're talking about?

     I'd like to get as close to $2000 as possible so everything I can upgrade I'd like to know about with that.

     And one last thing, if I build this rig now and then get it at Christmas will I be missing out on anything? Like new hardware coming out that I should get.

  •  11-11-2007, 8:41 PM 200158 in reply to 200145

    Re: What do you think..?

     if you can you should wait until after christmas to build, the new intel processors are coming out in january, the penryn series quad and dual cores.   plus if your into gaming the new nvidia 8800 gts should be coming out soon and it should out perform the current 8800 gtx pretty handily and maybe get close to 8800 ultra performance, but for less money. 

    so like i said if you can wait, wait till after Christmas for new hardware (plus after Christmas sales) and i would recommend buying parts and building yourself saving even more money.  

  •  11-11-2007, 8:49 PM 200167 in reply to 200145

    Re: What do you think..?

    It would be cheaper to buy all the parts from newegg and build it yourself rather then just buying the whole system, but if you don't know how to do that or don't know anyone who does then I would suggest not monkeying with it.

     I would say that's a pretty good system..but if I were you I would get a higher wattage psu. They're not that expensive.

     Also wait as close as you can till xmas, better parts come out every day and technology prices drop in no time.

    good luck

  •  11-11-2007, 9:10 PM 200179 in reply to 200167

    Re: What do you think..?

    Dont hesitate to build your own system friend. Its really not that much, and after you hear that first post beep, you'll have the nicest warmest fuzzy feeling knowing you've built your rig yourself. Not to get too squishy, but I did - seems many moons ago now.

    Besides just think of the Eggxpert as the best resource that you could have, there's not much I havent seen anyone not answer. I hear there's even some Tennessee fan who'll do IM couch sessions, but you'll have to hunt'm down yourself. Ennit VolDude!! LMAO!

    Peace, Penewah! 


    Box 1:Xeon W3520 D0/HeatKiller 3.0/Feser Extreme 360 w/ 3x Gentle Typhoons 1850s/SWFT655/EVGA E760 Classified/ XFX GTX 285(Kool 285 block OTW)/CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX/ CM HAF /Corsair Domi's 3X2GB DDR3_2000/F1 Spinpoint 2x1TB-SATA/HT Omega Striker/ Build #2: Antec 1200/ E8500 @ 3.87 Ghz/Gigabyte P45-UD3P/ OCZ 4Gb Reapers PC2 9200/EAH4870 1GB/750W PCPC Quad Silncer/CM V10 1/2aTEC/ #3 Biostar 790GX/AMD 9950BE 3.2Ghz/OCZ Reapers 4GB 1066 /2.75Tbs of F1 Spinpoint/Corsair 550W PSU/
  •  11-12-2007, 6:55 AM 200301 in reply to 200179

    Re: What do you think..?

    Oh, another question, I've upgraded the RAM and power supply, so now I'm at $2060, but should I get Vista?
  •  11-12-2007, 6:59 AM 200304 in reply to 200301

    Re: What do you think..?

    I'm a little confused about what your list looks like currently, maybe an update is in order?

    Penewah! 


    Box 1:Xeon W3520 D0/HeatKiller 3.0/Feser Extreme 360 w/ 3x Gentle Typhoons 1850s/SWFT655/EVGA E760 Classified/ XFX GTX 285(Kool 285 block OTW)/CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX/ CM HAF /Corsair Domi's 3X2GB DDR3_2000/F1 Spinpoint 2x1TB-SATA/HT Omega Striker/ Build #2: Antec 1200/ E8500 @ 3.87 Ghz/Gigabyte P45-UD3P/ OCZ 4Gb Reapers PC2 9200/EAH4870 1GB/750W PCPC Quad Silncer/CM V10 1/2aTEC/ #3 Biostar 790GX/AMD 9950BE 3.2Ghz/OCZ Reapers 4GB 1066 /2.75Tbs of F1 Spinpoint/Corsair 550W PSU/
  •  11-12-2007, 7:18 AM 200314 in reply to 200304

    Re: What do you think..?

    I added a good bit I think...here ya go:

     

    CASE: Hot !!! Apevia X-Telstar Aluminum Full Tower 420W Case w/ Temp Display and Fan Control (Silver Color)
    CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 CPU @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
    MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N32-E nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
    MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (4x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
    VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
    LCD Monitor: ViewSonic Q19WB 19& quot; 5ms Response Time COLOR TFT Active Matrix WXGA LCD Display 1440x900 (Black)
    HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
    Data Hard Drive: NONE
    Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
    Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
    SOUND: New! Creative X-Fi XMOD USB External Sound Control
  •  11-12-2007, 12:34 PM 200515 in reply to 200314

    Re: What do you think..?

    You're gonna want to get a diff PSU than the one that the case comes with. PSUs that come with cases tend to be very unreliable. I didnt didn one with a 430W but there was one with a 500W.  With all those fine parts you're gonna get , you're gonna want efficient and optimum power, an Apevia is a lower tier PSU. Fine cases yes, I got one, but PSU no. Take a look at single rail Corsairs or PC Power & coolings, something 550W or over. This is a key piece, remember your PSU is where it all begins. LOL. Nice mobo, GPU, RAM.

    I couldnt find the monitor on the Egg anyways, but yoy can get a better visual experience with something less than 5ms response time. The 19"  ViewSonic Q19WB was listed for around $200-210 on google, so I'd suggest SAMSUNG 906BW Black 19" 2 ms this one has a lower response time. I'd personally get something bigger like 20-22" , but at least this one has a 2ms response, instead of 5ms. 

    What brand of HD you planning on, anything in here would suffice http://tinylink.com/?ioyIhT1f9t though I'd get a western Dig myself, 

    Looking good though, certainly got something meshing there. 

    Penewah! 


    Box 1:Xeon W3520 D0/HeatKiller 3.0/Feser Extreme 360 w/ 3x Gentle Typhoons 1850s/SWFT655/EVGA E760 Classified/ XFX GTX 285(Kool 285 block OTW)/CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX/ CM HAF /Corsair Domi's 3X2GB DDR3_2000/F1 Spinpoint 2x1TB-SATA/HT Omega Striker/ Build #2: Antec 1200/ E8500 @ 3.87 Ghz/Gigabyte P45-UD3P/ OCZ 4Gb Reapers PC2 9200/EAH4870 1GB/750W PCPC Quad Silncer/CM V10 1/2aTEC/ #3 Biostar 790GX/AMD 9950BE 3.2Ghz/OCZ Reapers 4GB 1066 /2.75Tbs of F1 Spinpoint/Corsair 550W PSU/
  •  11-12-2007, 1:24 PM 200545 in reply to 200515

    Re: What do you think..?

    Oh woops, I got an upgrade for the PSU so it's 750 watts, but it's not listing it for some reason.
  •  11-12-2007, 1:53 PM 200561 in reply to 200545

    Re: What do you think..?

    Since you're putting 4gigs of RAM in, be sure you get a 64bit OS, whether it's Vista or XP doesn't matter. If you want DirectX 10, you need Vista.

    Rate helpful posts!
    P5N32-E SLI 8800GT Q6600
    2gigs Mushkin Redline @DDR2 800, 4-4-4-10
  •  11-12-2007, 4:25 PM 200677 in reply to 200561

    Re: What do you think..?

    Hmm I would recommend a q6600, but if you have plans for future upgrades, just upgrade to penryn quad core next year.

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