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Input on building a server

Last post 11-03-2009, 7:57 AM by p2ranger. 2 replies.
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  •  11-01-2009, 3:07 PM 581304

    Input on building a server

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    I am wanting to build a little server for my home. It's main use will be a file and print server. I've decided to make this a little hobby type project. What I've come up with, I'm not sure will work and would like some input on. I want to use Ubuntu 9.10 server (Linux) as my OS. I want to use two drives inside in a RAID array to prevent data loss. I've read that Linux will handle raid as the system I'm looking at doesn't do hardware RAID.

    I found this little barebones system on Newegg:

    Foxconn R10-S4

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119012

    It comes with 1X 3.5 internal bay, 1X 3.5 external bay, 1X 5.25 external bay, 2x SATA connectors, 1X PCI slot, integrated sound, video, NIC. One reviewer spoke of the 3.5 external bay as "an undersized external 3.5" bay for installing a usb card reader". Not sure if this bay will accommodate other things or not.

    I'm still new to Linux and am still trying to wrap my head around how the file system works (and have never attempted anything with RAID before). I was thinking about adding a third hard drive to use for booting and keeping the system on while keeping the two other drives for just keeping the data I want on the network. The idea being that if I need to move this data to another system, I hope that means that I could just pull these drives out and put them in something else.

    I guess one question to ask, is it necessary to keep a third drive separate just to have the Linux system on and separte from my data I want that will be on a RAID. If so, will I be able to add a third drive to this. Whether that be buying a PCI card with either an SATA or IDE interface on it to run the third drive which would have the system on it, or rigging some kind of a memory card reader device inside with say an SD card on it and the system on that. Will this system only boot on the two included SATA connectors it comes with? I've read where people have been able to put two drives in and install Linux from a thumb drive, so that tells me you can boot off the USB port anyway.

    I'm hesitant to install my OS to a thumbdrive as I don't want it getting knocked off accidentally and more so, I believe there isn't much life expectancy with that much read/write on a thumbdrive.

    I want this to be able to sit in a room and never need to be touched again for weeks on end.

    Has anyone else had experience with this Foxconn box and if so what is your setup and how has it behaved?

    Am I over analyzing all of this?

    Thanks for your help

    Jason


    System Specs
    Budget:>$500VGA:integratedMonitor:headless
    MB:OS:Ubuntu 9.10Browser:
    CPU:Intel AtomSound:integratedCPU Pps:file server
    Memory:2GigPSU:Brand:
    HD:500GB-1TBCooling:Misc:
  •  11-03-2009, 6:09 AM 581682 in reply to 581304

    Re: Input on building a server

    What your looking at doing is not the best way to get to where you are going in your expected budget.  If the hobby part is important than we can help you out.  What you are looking at is possible and there are many ways to attack it.  

    I would probably suggest for a print and file server to buy a router/base station that does those functions.  Then just buy a big usb hard drive. to plug into the router which would sit next to your printer.  Much easier and unless you have mission critical data it will be fine for 5 years just holding data.

     

     

  •  11-03-2009, 7:57 AM 581699 in reply to 581682

    Re: Input on building a server

    Thanks for your input.

     Not really keen on the idea of just having 1 external HD keeping the data. Bad previous experience with that. That's why I'm going with RAID1 so if one HD goes, hopefully I can still recover the data on the other one.

    The hobby idea is kind of important to me. Just got married and moved to my wife's city. I'm now a stay at home husband and need something to work on for now. 

    Now I'm looking into the hard drives. Been reading a lot about them and still not sure. It will be two identical SATA drives using RAID1 controlled by Linux. Can't really settle on a size/brand/model. I'm looking at 500GB to 1TB. Trying to figure out the $/MB ratios, but can't quite nail down the model and maker I want.

    There will be two identical drives. I know the WD greens are more power efficient, run cooler, etc. I'm guessing since they are cooler they will have more longevity. This will be good as the box will be small and will be turned on all the time. I've read that there might be issues with WD greens being used in RAID0, but does it matter with RAID1? The WD Blacks have a 5 yr warranty as opposed to 3 yr on the greens. Are they made better or have more longevity? The Blacks run hotter, and I don't know that I need that high end of drive for what I'm using it for.

    WD has left a bad taste in my mouth with a couple of previous hard drives that died on me. One was an internal drive after a couple of years and the other was one of those crappy My Book external drives, didn't last two years. So I'm thinking about checking out Seagate, but not sure if they are any more reliable.

    System use: Storing files, trying to go paperless for the home (bills, bank statements, my work certs, documents, etc.) Keeping all of mine and my wife's music and photos all in one central place. Performance is not going to be a priority. Reliability and longevity are my concern. I'm hoping this will last for several years.Thanks 

    Jason 

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