EggXpert

i dont know if anyone noticed but we are now no. 1745 and falling total work units done is 666 (im sure some will love that)

i also notice several people are moving up fast! thanks to everyone involved in this. 

Im back from my hiatus.. I had ran into smp issues and combined with a busy summer so far, I havent done a WU in about 2 weeks...but im back folding 100% now.

already folding with rosetta@home which by the way work fine with my ati and nividia cards. But glad to see you chaps are starting one here. I am on team USA.

Daniel49:

already folding with rosetta@home which by the way work fine with my ati and nividia cards. But glad to see you chaps are starting one here. I am on team USA.

Yes, I know about Rosetta.. Great project with great potential..  And all their stuff is pretty much open source.. Only problem is they haven't really written any scientific papers or came up with enough scientific results to get published in major scientific articles..  

Just take a comparison at the articles on Rosetta's page: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_articles.php

And then compare that to the papers folding@home has written: http://folding.stanford.edu/papers.html 

Don't just look at the number of articles, that would be silly.. Read some of the articles and see the quality of research and documentation in both and make your own decisions from that..

And when I refer to it running on ATI or nvidia hardware I mean the computation itself running inside the GPU hardware taking full advantage of the massive floating point capabilities of the graphics card.. The graphics card itself is completing workunits.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing Rosetta does with your graphics card is display a fancy overview of what the CPU is doing.. It doesn't actually use the graphics card to do any productive work as is the case with the folding@home GPU client (currently for ATI cards) which unleashes the massive amounts of parallel floating point computational capabilities of graphics cards normally used for vertex (3D) math being applied directly to science.

     Thanks Justeric78, Rez410 and everyone else connected.  Have been folding for five days now, but did not know of the team.  Just found this forum and joined.  Looks like we're going to kick some butt.

    
 

I've been playing around with DC for a little bit, but haven't done much with folding (I think I had close to 2.5k WUs w/SETI before they went to BOINC). I have used it in the past (I have 26 WUs). Right now my setup is as such:

AMD Athlon X2 4000+ , 2GB of RAM, Radeon x1650PRO, 512MB 

On that machine, I divide the RAM in half between windows vista (32bit) and vpc 2007 running Gentoo. I am running the standard x86 client on the virtual machine and standard graphical on the windows (I like the tray icon and the ability to check where I'm at easily). I don't think I should run the SMP client since I only have two cores and am doing virtualization, but I am considering running the GPU client. Should I do that? My other concern is I frequently use RDC, and I know that when I connect to my current desktop session, it emulates a crappy GPU. What happens to the GPU client then?

You're probably right about not running the SMP client.. For the GPU client, running anything that needs to grab hardware acceleration of the video card is likely to fail (games, full-screen hardware accelerated DVD decoding, etc.)  I'm not sure about Remote Desktop connections, I've never tried it.. But I'm pretty sure RDC is done 100% in the CPU..

 

 

RDC is done in the CPU. The thing I'm worried about is when I connect to my desktop session, it emulates a GPU ( a very bad one at that ). Do you think connecting to RDC would kill/mess up a folding session running on the GPU? How low-level does the code execute? Since it uses the DirectX API, would that mean running it on RDC would make it try and go to the emulated card, since the output (to include DirectX) when I connect my session gets redirected to the emulated card?

zje:

RDC is done in the CPU. The thing I'm worried about is when I connect to my desktop session, it emulates a GPU ( a very bad one at that ). Do you think connecting to RDC would kill/mess up a folding session running on the GPU?

I really doubt it.. But we won't know until you try.. I've never heard of it happening before, but there's a first time for everything..

zje:

How low-level does the code execute?

The GPU is done on an API that has a backend in DirectX.. So it's not low-level (currently) but there are plans to bring it down a bit using CTM so there's less overhead..  It runs at almost the same level as most games (actually, it's a level higher because of the API overhead that plugs into DirectX which itself is an API)..  The CPU client on the otherhand is very low level and has little to no overhead with it.. Most of the instructions for the CPU client are hand-written in assembly language (including SSE) for maximum performance.. But the GPUs of course are really good at floating point stuff which is why they're useful, even if there is currently a lot of overhead that will hopefully be removed soon..

Took me a while, but I'm finally running F@H. Yay!

I have it running on my Quad core here at home...as well as 3 of my 2xDual-Core Xeon 3.0GHz servers at work....I'll be cranking some WUs out in a few days. 

Well, RDC does kill the GPU client (it complains about needing an ATI card), but that doesn't matter too much since it kept erroring when downloading the core. I guess I'll stick with the regular client for now.

Hey Sid,

Did you ever figure out SMP on Vista?

freezy:

Hey Sid,

Did you ever figure out SMP on Vista?

I have neither.. But there are many people who have done it.. Why?  It was Sovet who was trying to do SMP on Vista and I think gave up..

The folding@home forums isn't letting most people login due to database & session problems with their forum.. 

I have it to this point:

[01:24:20] - Ask before connecting: No
[01:24:20] - User name: FreezyAbitKT7A (Team 13285)
[01:24:20] - User ID: 1CECB8FE65E2F62F
[01:24:20] - Machine ID: 1
[01:24:20]
[01:24:20] Loaded queue successfully.
[01:24:20]
[01:24:20] + Processing work unit
[01:24:20] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[01:24:20] Core found.
[01:24:20] Working on Unit 01 [August 28 01:24:20]
[01:24:20] + Working ...
[02:21:43] Service stop request received.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

As you can see , it just sat there for an hour and did nothing before I shut it down.

 I had it set as a service but per somebodies advice I ran a reconfig and undid it.

So now I dont know how to restart it. It's on my laptop so it will need to shut down/restart often

I'm running SMP v5.91beta on vista ultimate x64 and i'm having no problems.  As a note, i just re-joined the team tonight.  I put my old rid (running F@H v5.04 24/7) aside and assembled my new rig a few weeks ago and will have to start my points from scratch, no worries!

I've attached what my configuration looked like for those of you thinking you might be having configuration problems w/ vista x64

my system specs running SMP v5.91:
q6600 @ 2.6ghz (TT w/ plenty of unexplored headroom)
mushkin 4gb ddr2 800mhz 5-4-4-12
pc power & cooling 750 silencer
evga 8800gtx 756mb
evga 680i A1 rev.
WD 150 raptor

 

Version: 5.91beta
Windows 2000/XP/Vista
SMP client console version
MD5-sum of download: c60b9228628d6d35f1c37c98c640abd0
download at: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/download.html

 

 

_______________________________________________________________________________

FAH-Console configuration:

(I added a few comments preceded with a "//", followed by an explanation)
# Windows Console Edition #####################################################
###############################################################################
 
                       Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta 
 
                          http://folding.stanford.edu
 
###############################################################################
###############################################################################
 
Launch directory: C:\Program Files <x86>\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: C:\Program Files <x86>\Folding@Home windows SMP Client V1.0\fah.exe

[05:06:06] Configuring Folding@Home...
 
User name [Anonymous]? Arsonic[EggXpert]
Team Number [0]? 70567
//This is the eggxpert.com F@H team number
Launch automatically at machine startup, installing this as a service (yes/no) [no]? no
Stanford says that this SMP client version doesn't allow for the console to run as a service
Ask before fetching/sending work (no/yes) [no]? no
Use Internet Explorer Settings (no/yes) [no]? no
Use proxy (yes/no) [no]? no
//Make sure you choose no for IE and no to proxy, or you'll have issues either sending or receiving data on your WUs
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than 5MB in size (such work units may have large memory demands) (no/yes) [no]? yes
//By choosing yes, you'll be able to work are larger WUs, which is more beneficial for the project and earns you more points
Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]? yes
Core Priority (idle/low) [idle]? idle
CPU usage requested (5-100) [40]? 100
//Considering leaving a laptop to a lower priority of 40, i've setup my desktop to use 100
Disable highly optimized assembly code (no/yes) [no]? no
Pause if battery power is being used (useful for laptops) (no/yes) [no]? no
Interval, in minutes, between checkpoints (3-30) [15]? 15
Memory, in MB, to indicate (4093 available) [4093]? 4093
Request work units without deadlines (no/yes) [no]? no
Set -advmethods flag always, requesting new advanced scientific cores and/or work units if available (no/yes) [no]? yes
//This flag will allow you to work on special WUs, again benefiting the project as a whole and allowing you to earn alot more points for yourself
Ignore any deadline information (mainly useful if system clock frequently has errors) (no/yes) [no]? no
Machine ID (1-8) [1]? 1
//If you have multiple machines, give each one a different Machine ID number

_______________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Now go fold!

 

Any chance we can rename this thread to something along the lines of..."Newegg Folding@Home Team".  Or maybe an admin can create a new thread section just for us?  Let's get serious about it!

 

How about "EggXpert Folding@Home Team"?  I don't think we need another thread..  I'm sure JC won't mind if I rename this one..

 

Sidicas:

How about "EggXpert Folding@Home Team"?  I don't think we need another thread..  I'm sure JC won't mind if I rename this one..

 

 

Thanks Sid!  Not to take away from the thanks that was given, but I think it would help others find the thread easier, as well as make it a bit more official.  Look's great!

SovetCryptix:

I'm about to kill Vista... I download the SPM Client, open the readme, run the batch file as it says, and... the batch file fails to work properly, says...

OpenSCManager failed:
Access is denied. (error 5)
Unable to remove the previous installation, install failed.
account (domain\user) [Sovet-PC\Sovet]:
password:
confirm password:
Password encrypted into the Registry.
Unable to connect to 'Sovet-PC:8676',
sock error: generic socket failure, error stack:
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1228): unable to connect to Sovet-PC on port 8676, exhau
sted all endpoints (errno -1)
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1275): unable to connect to Sovet-PC on port 8676, No co
nnection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (errno 10
061)
Press any key to continue . . .

Vista asked about the ports and I ok'd them so I'm not sure what the deal is. =(

Edit: I manually added the port to the list, but it still fails. =( 

 

 

Sovet, a couple of things you could try.

1. Ensure you have the latest SMP version for vista (as of august 28th, 2007 it is v5.91beta)
2. Make sure you were running install.bat after extracting (silly i know, but it happens)
3. I disabled UAC on vista, perhaps that might eliminate the issue you're having
   go to here for an easy guide: http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm
4. If you want to keep UAC enabled, make sure SMPD.exe and FAH.exe have administrator rights (i think that's what the files are called)
5. When I would right click install.bat and run it as administrator, it wouldn't work for me
   So if you are doing this, just double left click and see it that changes things.
6. If you're using a router, take it out of the loop and connect directly to your modem.  You could be having port conflictions with your router.
7. Turn off all firewalls

Goodluck man, hope something here helps. =\

has anyone noticed we are now ranked 1037, i think we will be in the top 1000 soon!

arsonic:

I'm running SMP v5.91beta on vista ultimate x64 and i'm having no problems.  As a note, i just re-joined the team tonight.  I put my old rid (running F@H v5.04 24/7) aside and assembled my new rig a few weeks ago and will have to start my points from scratch, no worries!

If you are staying on the same team just use your old user ID and it will add new points to that account.

Stanford still needs people to run the 5.04. Don't give up on it if you have a single core sitting around

freezy:

arsonic:

I'm running SMP v5.91beta on vista ultimate x64 and i'm having no problems.  As a note, i just re-joined the team tonight.  I put my old rid (running F@H v5.04 24/7) aside and assembled my new rig a few weeks ago and will have to start my points from scratch, no worries!

If you are staying on the same team just use your old user ID and it will add new points to that account.

Stanford still needs people to run the 5.04. Don't give up on it if you have a single core sitting around

Yea I would've loved to, ya know what happened though?  I found that another guy named Arsonic already had an account on another team.  Not sure if that means he was getting credit for my WUs or not.  Either way, the name Arsonic is no longer listed on the EggXpert team anymore, hm.  It's ok, I didn't have too many WUs on that account anyways to make a big difference.

 

EDIT:  I just realized what you were saying.  I did put my single core aside (athlon 64 3700+), but it is still running v5.04 @ 100%.  Nothing goes to waste!

i have three older machines running 5.04 and they just chug along, I hardly look at them.

I do have to watch my SMP on the dual core about every three WU's it just gets mad and locks up. if you don't catch it in three hours it dumps the WU and starts over, sucks if you were at 90 something percent. but i love the points i get from the SMP, more than the other three combined! 

Any of you guys know how to bring up the FAH-Console if you have it running in the background as a service (without shutting it down and starting it up manually)?  I'm using windows vista x64.

arsonic:

Sidicas:

How about "EggXpert Folding@Home Team"?  I don't think we need another thread..  I'm sure JC won't mind if I rename this one..

 

 

Thanks Sid!  Not to take away from the thanks that was given, but I think it would help others find the thread easier, as well as make it a bit more official.  Look's great!

 

We need a whole section so people can post separate threads for questions or problems they have with folding. I have been asking for this for quit some time now.