EggXpert

ive been having great luck running the smp client on my X2 system.

but if the computer needs to be shut down it can be a bear to get running at speed again. i process 1% aprox every half hour. if i shut down and restart it sometimes runs 5 time slower. i actually uninstall smp, reboot reinstall keeping the log file and the it cranks again.

do you know how to properly shut it down, no matter how i close it when i restart it says last shutdown was improper. if i have 2 or 3 restarts on one wu it starts yelling that ive had 8 consecutive improper termination of the core.

by the way im holding 36 minutes per % point while surfing and watching a movie and streaming two movies to other computers.

keeping the kids from messing with the client is my main hard job 

prophet42:

do you know how to properly shut it down, no matter how i close it when i restart it says last shutdown was improper. if i have 2 or 3 restarts on one wu it starts yelling that ive had 8 consecutive improper termination of the core.

Hmmm.. After you give the Ctrl+C command to the window, you need to wait for all the threads to receive the command and shut down gracefully.. Most times, it takes less than a minute, but on some workunits people have had to wait 45-60 minutes for the client to shut down gracefully. Forcing it to shut down ungracefully will often force you to have to restart the workunit from the very beginning. This problem is ONLY on the Beta SMP client. The regular client  you can abuse all you want and you won't have any problems.. It will correctly recover from the last "save point" the problem with the SMP client is that it can't correctly write the save point and often ends up being corrupt the next time you start it up (hence, it starts the workunit over).. Again, it's just another bug in the SMP client..  

Good to see you got the SMP client working on your computers.. Yes, another draw back of it is you *have* to run it in a window. Again, this is forced so you can monitor what it's doing and shut it down easily if you have a problem.   Well, that's the idea anyway.. But as you found out, the Beta SMP client often has troubles shutting down properly and saving its checkpoints. It *is* still a Beta client, so remember that   To those who read this, you can always hide the regular client in the background by installing it as a service (as mentioned above).. But you *can't* install the SMP client as a service and it must run in a window so you can keep an eye on it. So again, you can totally forget about the regular client for years at a time and never see or hear from it again but rest assured it's still doing work.

thanks, i don't like to shut down but it is necessary sometimes, not to mention the ultra reliable power we have here! yes thats sarcasm.

hey i like folding so much i moved my divx work to my old socket a system to let the smp run faster.

I personally have not had any issues with the SMP client, save it being for when the client has to be shut down and restarted.  On these occasions I have several times had the WU that was being worked on, end up being so corrupted that the client actually erased the old data and started fresh... Kind of disheartening when you think one of those times it was at ~93% complete...  Yea.. kinda sucks when that happens, but like you said it is a Beta release.  As I am not running Vista, I have had little other issues with the client, and have been letting the thing run as full steam as it can on the one system I have that can actually run the SMP version.  On my other 2 systems running, I have 1 console version and 1 GUI version.  They both operate well, but because of the age of the CPU's run quite a bit slower and it typically takes nearly 2-3(sometimes more) days to push out 1 WU.

Either way.. I sit at/near my PC almost 14 hours a day.. and can babysit it fairly well.. though I haven't truly found an absolute need.  I'm actually looking forward to uninstalling the current SMP and installing the new one when they release it... so I can help them test out their latest work to see what other nuances they have introduced into the software.  But to each their own.
 

New SMP client released today, old SMP client expires today!

 Currents stats on the eggxpert Team:

There are currently 13,980 Registered Teams

Team EggXpert is current ranked in 2,287th place.

Within 30 days, Team EggXpert will be ranked within 1,500th place.

 Not bad for a brand new team, we're passing some teams that have been folding for years.

Detailed Team Stats here: http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=70567

Edit: Oops, I linked to my stats instead of the team.. should be fixed now. 

Well, I hope to be able to contribute a lot more.  I have access to several hundred computers that run all day long - I will see if my clients mind running this on their workstations, and start upping the number of processors in use for folding.  Already up to 9 processors (7 with completed workunits, 2 on their way), and soon to be more.  That should help improve our rankings a bit.

my beloved all in wonder 9800 pro graphics card died killing my smp, had to settle for a geforce 6200 le, yes in know but its what i could get for under a buck on a sat at my local pc club.

back up and running but lost my last unit at 94%!

it sucks now that you made me think of it, but where i work there are hundreds of computers many basically idle most of the day. but its GOV. i know they would never go for it

 

prophet42:

it sucks now that you made me think of it, but where i work there are hundreds of computers many basically idle most of the day. but its GOV. i know they would never go for it

 

heh i know how you feel working for the GOV. Except instead of hundreds i have access to thousands of nodes that are part of HPC systems. Fratricide knows what im talking about lol.   

hey does anybody go by eddy for the folding?

i think i my have sent 5 of my wu's to my computers name and not mine.

i was getting pissed thinking i wasn't getting score cause of shutdowns and improper starts, if nobody is eddy the there where my 7000 points went! 

FAHMon 2.2.2 released!

FAHMon is a tool for monitoring folding@home clients on a network. It works on Linux and Windows

FAHMon Homepage
 

(Screenshot from FAHMon homepage) 

Just reminded me to reinstall now that I've got a Dual-Core. I've also talked to my Dad about installing it on the companies network, each machine stays on 24-7, so they would get quit a bit done =)

I installed F@H on my P4 2.8 system and it says this: 
                                                       WU End:
                                                           08:48 Mon Oct 07
                                                           104d:03h:54m:43s

Does it normally take that long to finish a WU?

Thanks,
ajk2005

No, it needs time for it to get an accurate estimate.

Oh, ok.  I'm new to this F@H stuff and didn't know if that was normal or what.  Thanks for the quick reply Sidicas!

ajk2005

Were now in place 2063 out of 72754 teams.  Keep up the good work! 

ajk2005

Ok, so I've got a Dual-Core, and 2 x1950Pro cards... is it possible for me to run 4 clients then?

Just trying to figure out how to get this all set up, and getting confused with all this multi CPU/GPU stuff... O.o

run the SMP client on the dual core. im running it on a X2 4400+ and am processing WU's every two days (they have a 4 day limit) It can be a twichy program, Sidacas knows more than I. The SMP client uses both cores itself

I dont know about the graphics card client, all my graphics cards are ancient.
 

I'm about to kill Vista... I download the SPM Client, open the readme, run the batch file as it says, and... the batch file fails to work properly, says...

OpenSCManager failed:
Access is denied. (error 5)
Unable to remove the previous installation, install failed.
account (domain\user) [Sovet-PC\Sovet]:
password:
confirm password:
Password encrypted into the Registry.
Unable to connect to 'Sovet-PC:8676',
sock error: generic socket failure, error stack:
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1228): unable to connect to Sovet-PC on port 8676, exhau
sted all endpoints (errno -1)
MPIDU_Sock_post_connect(1275): unable to connect to Sovet-PC on port 8676, No co
nnection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (errno 10
061)
Press any key to continue . . .

Vista asked about the ports and I ok'd them so I'm not sure what the deal is. =(

Edit: I manually added the port to the list, but it still fails. =( 

 

sorry xp64bit here,  they will have to put a gun to my head to make me switch

wish i could help but i dont know vista at all

sorry

prophet 

Sorry to sound noobish but i have a question and forgive me if it has already been asked.  (i skimmed but didnt see it)

So what exactly is this.  I know that you PC is chomping on some data in the background but thats about it.

What is the computer putting together?  What does it send?  What is a WU?  And how does this help?

If there is a good reason, i'll join.  But if its somehting like a contest to see how many people we can get doing this without actually working towards a cause, then im sorry to say that i wont.

Umm, best way to learn I guess is to go to the website (it's in the first post), they go over basically everything there.

kunzy:

Sorry to sound noobish but i have a question and forgive me if it has already been asked.  (i skimmed but didnt see it)

So what exactly is this.  I know that you PC is chomping on some data in the background but thats about it.

What is the computer putting together?  What does it send?  What is a WU?  And how does this help?

If there is a good reason, i'll join.  But if its somehting like a contest to see how many people we can get doing this without actually working towards a cause, then im sorry to say that i wont.

your are mainly working on disease research for things like cancer and alzhiemers, looking at peices of DNA and other fun stuff thats over my head. but it is a good cause. i used to do seti at home but think this is more noble than looking for little green men, and i like little green men.

seriously it is a good cause and there are others whom know more details than i do.

folding at home was mentioned in maximum pc as being one of the fastest super computers around if you add all our processors together, dont ask me the technical im not that smart but with something like 750,000 processors we can chew a lot of data

SovetCryptix:

I'm about to kill Vista... I download the SPM Client, open the readme, run the batch file as it says, and... the batch file fails to work properly, says...

When you run the install script, you manually have to run it as Administrator.. Even if you're already logged in as a Administrator.. I think you need to right-click on it and choose Run as administrator or something.. Maybe it's in the install.bat file properties.. I don't have Vista either...

On Vista, I'd suggest that you run two GPU clients and one CPU client..  I wouldn't run the SMP client at all, your graphics cards are so powerful together that combined will do more science running the SMP client..

Although *technically* each GPU client requires a CPU core AND a GPU core, Vista is so GPU friendly that you should be able to run  2 GPU clients and still have plenty of CPU power left over to run a CPU client.. But running GPU clients and the SMP client isn't going to be possible..

Also note that both GPU clients and SMP clients are all beta, so it's going to be a pain getting them working, but once you do it should be smooth sailing.

I'm here to help you as best I can, but keep in mind I'm not running any GPU clients or Vista, so you should post here AND also at the folding@home forums http://www.folding.stanford.edu and hopefully you'll find your answers and solutions quickly..

Good luck getting up and running.  btw, Vista is the best OS to run the GPU clients on because of the driver model that it's using was built for this kinda stuff. Though the Vista drivers are a bit inefficient at the moment, they should get better and you'll see performance boosts with driver updates.

kunzy:

Sorry to sound noobish but i have a question and forgive me if it has already been asked.  (i skimmed but didnt see it)

So what exactly is this.  I know that you PC is chomping on some data in the background but thats about it.

What is the computer putting together?  What does it send?  What is a WU?  And how does this help?

Folding@home is a protein folding simulation program that runs the well-known and optimized Open-Source Gromacs protein simulation core.. I'd suggest you read up on it at the website: http://folding.stanford.edu/

Basically, it runs protein simulations which help further our understanding of how proteins fold and misfold.. When a protein mis-folds, bad things happen such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.

If you have the scientific background, you might be able to understand the scientific papers that have been published as a result based on some of the conclusions that have resulted from everybody running folding@home on their computers... You can find the list of papers here:  http://folding.stanford.edu/papers.html 

 

prophet42:

folding at home was mentioned in maximum pc as being one of the fastest super computers around if you add all our processors together, dont ask me the technical im not that smart but with something like 750,000 processors we can chew a lot of data

That's right, the folding@home project has over 700 TFlops of processing power to run protein folding simulations on..  That's 700 trillion ( 700,000,000,000,000) floating point operations per second every second, 24 hours a day..  Which is computational resources that beat the most powerful and large multi-million dollar supercomputers in the world.

Even still, simulating protein folding at an atomic scale requires tremendous amounts of computational power and with more computational power, more simulations can be run, and more events that cause protein mis-folding can be understood. Protein folding can't be researched under a microscope.. It's just too complex, happens too fast, and involves too many atoms and pieces of information to be analyzed.. It must be simulated to gain a proper understanding of it... Hence folding@home which uses computers from around the world to run protein folding simulations.

All protein folding simulations being done are all currently using the Gromacs core, source code for Gromacs is available from the Gromacs site.

prophet42:

run the SMP client on the dual core. im running it on a X2 4400+ and am processing WU's every two days (they have a 4 day limit)

I noticed you passed me in the stats   Congratulations   At your current rate, in 30 days you will be the #1 contributor for our team.. Unless of course Sovet or somebody takes that crown from you

 

sorry for that, i read the web at the link in the first post and i didnt see any details (then again i probably didnt know what i was looking for.).

Thanks for the info.  I will be joining shortly.