EggXpert

I've been buying from Newegg long enough to remember when shipping was free for just about everything.

I'm glad I just finished upgrading the 3 systems in the house, because there is nothing that Newegg provides that is worth an extra 8.25% to me. Newegg certainly isn't the only game in town. 

It's truly unfortunate that NewEgg has found that it's affiliates are more important that it's customers.  I live in NYS and the additional expense of paying sales tax will definitely be making me looking for other online retailers.  I've been a customer with NewEgg for a long time and I don't think I've ever bought through an affiliate.

 I don't see how charging NYS Tax is going to help NewEgg make money.  Are affiliates from NY really bringing in that much money for NewEgg that they are abandoning longterm loyal customers?

 I can't say that I'll never buy anything at NewEgg because they are a reliable online retailor.  But I certainly am going to buy elsewhere whenever possible.

I sincerely hope that NewEgg has a change of heart in the near future.

                                             

I just made my last order from newegg yesterday. If newegg starts charging me tax, I will buy my stuff somewhere else(aka Tigerdirect). I spent a couple thousands dollars every years on PC hardwares and Games. 8 percents is really good deal for me.

have a good time at stinker direct,,,do business with them for awhile and you will be more than glad to pay the tax at the egg,,,stinker directs prices and shipping will more than offset the tax you'll have to pay at the egg,,,i have a stinker direct 45 miles from me,,,and i don't mind waiting three days for my egg orders to arrive to save the amount of money i do,,,but, to each his own my freind,,,,good luck in whatever you decide,,,just MOA,,,,

SIdacas, I appreciate your response because you are someone like myself who is clearly following this debate pretty closely, but... 

Sidicas:

IronMan77:

You mean CheifValue is like NewEgg without the tax, awesome! 

I have a feeling CheifValue is going to be picking up some customers.

If it's the NewEgg warehouses that you love so much, with the fast shipping and such, then you'll probably be fine with ChiefValue. However, if it's the customer support (the part that I love) then stick with NewEgg despite the tax increase, I am.

Well, if we can still maintain a great selection, fast shipping, and competitive prices, it's at least 3/4, and in the end just may be worth it. And that is just one option. I'm sure we are all aware of the other online retailers that are also available. For many customers, a 9% increase at the point of sale makes a difference.

You say that CheifValue's customer service isn't up to par with NewEgg's but actually they have a 9.43/10 reseller rating and their CS is very highly respected and highly rated. They just might be the logical choice for a replacement supplier for NY state residents who were currently loyal NewEgg customers.

Sidicas:

People cry and complain about all the out-sourcing to India when they have a problem and they spend hours trying to get it resolved because the guy on the other end of the phone can't speak English very well...

The issue in the debate is a little different in a few significant ways. If NewEgg was raising prices to maintain its great service, fast shipping, or employees then your analogy would make sense. NewEgg isn't even getting anything out of this. They are simply collecting taxes on behalf of the state and turning them over.

I can understand NewEgg not wanting to stand up to the law like Amazon and not wanting to get themselves into get into a legal mess. 

But, In this case, NewEgg had a clear decision to make that they were in complete control of. This decision was theirs to make and held no legal consequences. I'm sure there were meetings with accountants and all as to whether to suspend the affiliate program in NY or not. It apparently came down to that they valued their affiliate program members in NY more then then their customers in the state. To loyal NewEgg customers in NY this is very disappointing.

Just as NY state customers received and email that read "We regret to inform you that because of a change in NY state law we have to start charging tax..." they could have just as easily sent a letter to NY affiliate program members that read "We regret to inform you that because of a change in NY state law we have to suspend this program at this time... 

Sidicas:

The only people the law makers listen to is *gasp* New York residents! You can write a letter to New York state and let them know how you feel.

Haha, I don't believe there is anyone, including yourself, who seriously thinks that if this measure was put on the ballot that NY state residents would have ever passed it. If it was it would have failed a miserable death. And as if I voted for any people in NY state putting this in motion, that would be the day. I'm sure we are all aware of the persuasion of the lawmakers who pushed this. 

Sidicas:

...Amazon has no interest in New York except for making money...need to wake up and realize it's just that Amazon doesn't want to lose their sales...

Here is the greatest part about this: It is not only in Amazon's best interest to fight this, but also ours (NY State Residents). If they pull this off its a win-win for both of us.

LavaIce:

I can't say that I'll never buy anything at NewEgg because they are a reliable online retailer.  But I certainly am going to buy elsewhere whenever possible.

I agree. I can't say that I will never buy from NewEgg again unless they change this policy because we all know NewEgg is great, but from now on I will buy elsewhere whenever possible.

 

really does suck, hope it dosent happen for illinois

The law will be struck down. It puts an unfair burden on retailers, this law was challenged years ago in regards to catalog sales who did not have a physical presence in the state they ship to. In NY just about every county has a different tax rate. If I go from Nassau to Queens to Suffolk and NYC I'm paying different taxes in all of them as a small example. This law was originally given to Spitzer and there was an uproar so he put it aside, well we know what happened to him. The new mayor that was used to replace him, Spitzers standin, somehow it was passed through him, I don't think he even knew the deal, but he should have.

 The reason NY is losing money is because businesses are moving out of NY to more friendly tax states. That includes the citizens, the tax is what is motivating them. I have a business and even I want to move out of here and I don't even do retail those guys pay alot more. The NY law is going to backfire because no one will want to hire NY affiliates due to increasing their tax burden, then those people can't create affiliate businesses, in turn NY receives less business taxes. You see how it all spirals into worse and worse things. A Pro Baseball player earns more than NY expects to get in taxes, it's just a bad decision for the losses it will create all around.

Newegg is trying to just do what they think is best for them. As a business and a person that has to be respected. But I doubt that their affiliates can make more for them than the combined buying power of NY residents. Most people hear of Newegg through word of mouth anyway that is Neweggs power, word of mouth buyers. And that is why I end by sayin We love Newegg and I write this respectfully. Thanks.
 

Your from NY and now you not only have to pay shipping but also NY State sales Tax. Now I love Newegg but this really dampens purchases and forces me to look around now. Sad to think that this day has come. Just figures that NY would want a piece of the action, like they don't drain us New Yorkers enough already. Not Neweggs falt either. If you live in New York then you understand the situation Newegg has been placed in. This is a greedy state and will only make others live better and not the the simple people of NY.  I was born and raised in NY and has watched this state which was once a nice place to live and grow up be destroyed over the years. I don't live in the city but rather Long Island and it was real nice years ago. But even now Long Island has become terrible and over populated. The Taxes are a Joke and Locals who where once longtime generations of families who lived here are being forced to move out of state cause they can't afford to live here anymore giving up their life long homes. Truly sad a day it is.

I fell sorry for New Yorkers it's such a pretty state .I'm sure the other states will follow suit.Its a shame when you buy parts online you report it in your tax return it seems they are afraid someone's going to get away with something

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As a NY state resident and a long time loyal Newegg customer, this news really hurt.  I've been with newegg since 2001 and spent thousands a year with newegg.  NY is expensive enough to live in.  Newegg was the place to get affordable parts.  I recommend hundreds if not thousands of people to shop with newegg.  I feel saddened that Newegg will not be the one stop shop or my first stop for computer equipment anymore.  This tax adds up when I start spending thousands.  I find it suprising that newegg would choose its affliliates over its customers.  Everyone already knows about newegg and the affiliates can't bring in the same amount of people as loyal customers.  In doing so, they just turned their backs on NY customers.  I will still buy things from newegg just not as much.  If they do the math, they will realize they are losing more sales than what the affliliates can provide.  I do wish newegg the best.  There are alot of other states that provide them with business.  They just lost a huge chunk of customers from NY.  I applaud overstock for choosing their customers because apparently they did the math.  Newegg was great.  I will be looking for better deals to be able to afford to live in NY.

well this really sucks..... thank god i finished building my computer, i like newegg, but now im not buying anything from them anymore. i was actually saving up to buy a $1000+ LCD tv  from newegg, but now that this whole tax thing is going on, im not going, and like some ppl said newegg WAS great.. new york is already wayy to expensive as it is and now this, w/e.

Yes I live in New York and yes this sucks big time. I am watching and hoping that this law gets struck down quickly as unconstitutional, not just for Me and New Yorkers, but for everyone. If this holds up, you will all be seeing it soon in your states.

As far as the fiscal situation in New York, yes it is bad. It is bad because of decades of high/idiotic/business unfriendly taxes and policies. So far this summer it looks like NY is going after me personally to balance the state budget. 1) An additional $1.25 tax per pack of cigarettes. 2) Roadblocks, 'safety checkpoints' and other Gestapo like police activity around every motorcycle event with a mandate to write more tickets. 3) The attempt (I hope)to force retailers outside of their jurisdiction to collect taxes on sales shipped to NY.

The claim that this will help local retailers is BS. Wal-Mart has done more to harm the local businessman than the internet retailers, but the state does nothing in this arena to prevent the spread of the mega box retailers. Quite the opposite, they give incentives to get a couple hundred more minimum wage jobs.

Sidicas: "Whether or not NewYork is properly spending the little funding that they get is an entirely different issue" Nothing can be farther from the truth. 1) Proper spending is a major issue in NY, one that is ignored in Albany. 2) That little funding is only little when compared to the Federal budget, NY's enacted 2008/2009 budget is over $80 billion dollars. They expect to see less than 100 million per year from this, now that is a little number.

New York needs to learn to live within it's means and stop pushing citizens and busineses to other states. I used to work in the service industry and have worked in most every state agency building in Albany, trust me there is plenty of waste that can be trimmed. Instead of reponsible spending NY relies on one time gimmicks to generate revenue, extending drivers license and vehicle registration periods to get larger fees is just one example of what this state prefers to do. They force feed the stop smoking agenda, raise cigarette taxes and then whine when the tobacco tax revenue goes down because they forced people to buy out of state or from indian reservations. Rather than enforce the existing laws concerning sales tax on internet purchases, they are trying to shift the burden to someone else. NY most likely feels that they are in a win/win situation, even if the law is struck down they are not going to refund the taxes collected.

As far as NewEgg goes, they have been my first stop when shopping for computer and electronics and will remain so. In the past if I found what I wanted at a reasonable price, I would buy it. Now I will most likely explore other options before I just check out. NewEgg's service has kept me here as much or more than the prices. I would like to the Egg make a stand, but can understand why they are letting Amazon fight the battle. The customers are most likely going to foot the bill for the lawsuit in increased prices.

/rant off

"Sidicas: "Whether or not NewYork is properly spending the little funding that they get is an entirely different issue" Nothing can be farther from the truth. 1) Proper spending is a major issue in NY, one that is ignored in Albany. 2) That little funding is only little when compared to the Federal budget, NY's enacted 2008/2009 budget is over $80 billion dollars. They expect to see less than 100 million per year from this, now that is a little number."

all that money and probably most of it its not being used for the state, but for other things, even our bridges are falling and need repair, but with all that tax money  our bridges still untouched with no repairs, w/e. if newegg decided to someday not be part of this online taxing then ill buy from them, but for now ill just use some other alternatives 

We in NY pay a pretty hefty some of taxes on gas lets not forget.  And instead of going for road and bridge repair it goes into the general funds, that seems kinda backwards.

So why does NY think that taxing online purchases is going to make that much of a difference?

Also, another thing I wanted to rant about.  Who has ever bought anything from a NewEgg affliate?  I never even knew there was an affliate program until this whole heated debate on NY Taxes.  I remember a friend introducing me to it quite some time ago and since then I have referred a lot of business.  I also personally think a word of mouth recommendation is worth more than a affilate sale.

I really thought that NewEgg was more about building customer loyalty by offering low prices and top quality service... apparently that's not the case being that they couldn't at least temporarly suspend affilates from NY at least until Amazon's lawsuit against the state has been decide.

end rant for now

I am totally against this new money grab by New York State's illustrious politicians. I wish there were some way to vote them all out and start fresh!

Talking about fuel taxes, my rural county has a 37% increase in sales tax revenue from fuel...to the tune of 347K! And, the county is still raising other taxes this year!

OK, my next question is how long does it take NewEgg to process NYS Sales Tax Exemption. I am a consultant and use NewEgg as one of my component sources for smaller orders that I need right away or do not meet my distributor's minimum dollar amounts. I don't have any rush jobs right now, but I did fax in my tax exempt application 2 days ago and haven't heard anything back.

emsbronco:

OK, my next question is how long does it take NewEgg to process NYS Sales Tax Exemption. I am a consultant and use NewEgg as one of my component sources for smaller orders that I need right away or do not meet my distributor's minimum dollar amounts. I don't have any rush jobs right now, but I did fax in my tax exempt application 2 days ago and haven't heard anything back.

 

It takes a remarkable 30 days(!) to process a sales tax exemption form at Newegg (ridiculous).  Any purchases made in the interim can be refunded the tax later, however, if the tax exemption certificate is approved and on file.

 Since June 1st, I've found virtually equivalent deals over at Chiefvalue which is where I am spending my money pending either Newegg suspending its affiliate program temporarily so we can avoid the tax imposition, or it finally gets overturned (which will probably take months).

Lost sales for Newegg as they continue to care more about their affiliates than their customers.  The shame continues....

chiefvalue?  thanks for the tip.  Newegg is off of my shopping places.  Does tigerdirect offer no tax for NYers?