EggXpert

Below are some of the intial Lynnfield reviews on today's release. We know folks will be asking from here on out, 1366 vs. 1156, yada yada yada, well here's some nice informative reviews to fill the old bean with, and help you decide, or at the least, give you a back drop to posit your inquire. 

I think the slashdot editor summed it up best saying that 1156 is the new mainstream socket that will provide the best power efficiency and the best performance for your dollar..    1366 and the Triple-channel memory platform it was built on will be for people wanting to get absolute maximum performance at any cost.

Slashdot.org:

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Vigile writes "Not many people have debated that Intel's Nehalem architecture is the fastest available for consumer desktop computers since it was released last year, but quite a few have complained about the cost of the platform. Intel just released new Lynnfield-based processors under both the Core i7 and Core i5 names and tests are showing the new CPUs beating Nehalem in both performance-per-watt and performance-per-dollar tests to a startling degree. And while raw performance probably still goes to the Nehalem-based Core i7 CPUs, the lower prices of motherboards and memory for Lynnfield processors will likely more than make up for it." Update: 09/08 14:03 GMT by T : There are more eye-wateringly exhaustive examinations of the new chips all over the Web; here's HotHardware's version, and Tom's Hardware's.

Does i5 still run on DDR3?

And with Tom's Hardware pointing out the hexacore processors available next year, who could resist not* upgrading to 1366?

(*now with a smidge of sarcasm!)

Seriously, though, this is getting out of hand. I know the whole thing/theorm/other technical term about CPU speed doubling every 18 months, but come on. Aside from servers, and maybe* work stations, who the fark is going to need a hexacore processor when most programs still support only single core chips**?

(*sarcasm not available on this model)

(**potentially not 100% accurate)

does anyone think i'll gain any performance upgrading my AMD socket A 1.2 gig to the new I5 Intell??? or should i just add another 128 mb of ram,,,,

good find btw MOOSHKIE

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Thanks for the links Pene!

*sticky'd*

- Paul

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Kahne:

1156 only supports dual channel memory but it says ddr3. i would still buy an 1366 system instead of the new 1156 p55 series.

 Please explain.

I think he meant 1366 i7 boards support triple channel (instead of dual channel) DDR3. 

Capt. Insane:

Does i5 still run on DDR3?

And with Tom's Hardware pointing out the hexacore processors available next year, who could resist not* upgrading to 1366?

(*now with a smidge of sarcasm!)

 

Seriously, though, this is getting out of hand. I know the whole thing/theorm/other technical term about CPU speed doubling every 18 months, but come on. Aside from servers, and maybe* work stations, who the fark is going to need a hexacore processor when most programs still support only single core chips**?

(*sarcasm not available on this model)

(**potentially not 100% accurate)

I bet Pentium Dual Cores and Core 2 Duo's are here to stay because they are sufficient for like 80% of the population that only uses computers for Word, web surfing etc. and those CPUs will get cheaper and cheaper so long as Intel keeps making them!  I bet Intel will focus more and more on the development of low energy products than doubling cores every 18 months. The fact that laptop sales exceeded desktop sales says a lot about how low speed dual cores are good enough for most of the people, and the money is in the area of lowering energy consumption/ extending battery lives, and mobility (like a dual core CPU in a cell phone)/ remote access / networking, etc.  

fatboyHD:

does anyone think i'll gain any performance upgrading my AMD socket A 1.2 gig to the new I5 Intell??? or should i just add another 128 mb of ram,,,,

good find btw MOOSHKIE

Mr. HD, or may I call you fat, I would suggest you wait untill first quarter of next year and go for a dual I9 system with at least 24GB of high speed ram, hopefully by then there will be hard drives larger than 2TB to use.

OkieJohn2:

fatboyHD:

does anyone think i'll gain any performance upgrading my AMD socket A 1.2 gig to the new I5 Intell??? or should i just add another 128 mb of ram,,,,

good find btw MOOSHKIE

Mr. HD, or may I call you fat, I would suggest you wait untill first quarter of next year and go for a dual I9 system with at least 24GB of high speed ram, hopefully by then there will be hard drives larger than 2TB to use.

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OkieJohn2:

fatboyHD:

does anyone think i'll gain any performance upgrading my AMD socket A 1.2 gig to the new I5 Intell??? or should i just add another 128 mb of ram,,,,

good find btw MOOSHKIE

Mr. HD, or may I call you fat, I would suggest you wait untill first quarter of next year and go for a dual I9 system with at least 24GB of high speed ram, hopefully by then there will be hard drives larger than 2TB to use.

Is i9 the name for the hexacores? I can't wait to see how much those cost. I wonder if Intel will invent DDR-6 to go along with the 6 cores of their new processors

Henweee:

Kahne:

1156 only supports dual channel memory but it says ddr3. i would still buy an 1366 system instead of the new 1156 p55 series.

 Please explain.

I compared the memory of the Gigabyte boards. For the 6 slot boards, they cost about the same amount ($240 for the p55 and $280 for the ex58 with 6 memory slots). However, the ex58 is triple channel, and maxes out at 24gb vs 16gb for the p55. Also, gigbyate says that memory will run slower on the p55 if all 6 slots are used. The p55 board has three pci-e x16 slots running at x16, x8, and x4, whereas the ex58 has three pci-e x16 slots running at x16, x8, x8 (or x16,x16,unused).

So, it seems for a few more dollars ($530 for the p55 w/ 860 vs $543 for the ex58 w/ 920), you get a little more expandability.

It does look like the i5 750 is the cpu of choice for most mainstream adoptors of the Nehalem architechture.

For most people with Core 2 duals or Quads which don't have HT so how much of a gain will they get by going to the i7 860 vs the i5 750? Based on Bit-Tech's charts not a great deal. So take HT out of the equation and you are down to speed and phhhh oc'ing the 750 is a piece of cake so really no need for the 860 IMO

These are just my thoughts based on a monetary outlook of the 2 cpu's. Now factor in the lower cost of p55 boards and dual channel kits of ram you have yourself a decent system for a good price.

Pene thanks for the research and effort putting this post together. Gives readers a great tool for deciding which way to go.

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What i believe he is asking is  dose lynnfield P55  use   DDR3  dual channel or  triple channel and the answer is it uses dual channel DDR3   and the only chipset that uses triple channel DDR3  is X58

As for the Gigabyte UD6 board that has 6 slots ... the 4 slots that are blue are dual channel  if you fill the board completely and use the white slots it will no longer be dual channel  so it really doesn't make much sense to use more the 4 dimms in that board if you decide too you will suffer a performance hit  if you need more then 4 dimms well the answer is you should just go ahead and get X58 and take advantage of triple DDR3  rather then suffer the perfomance loss with P55 but in most situations you will NEVER need more then 8gb of ram

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raptorrage:

in most situations you will NEVER need more then 8gb of ram

Penewah!

Penewab2007:

raptorrage:

in most situations you will NEVER need more then 8gb of ram

I don't think I've even come close to topping the 6GBs of memory used in the X58. And this includes Adobe Premier, AOI. So I'd just go it a few gigs more, and say, most will NEVER need more than 6GBs of memory. I know there's a few apps out there that will, but is he, or most us, using them? Doubtful.

Penewah!

 

I agree with Pene. One of my coworkers does 3d rendering and such with 3D Studio Max. He's got an i7 940 with 12gb of RAM, and that program really uses all of it.

Sure, the average user probably will never need more than 8gb, but for someone doing a lot of multitasking or using high-consumption programs, like 3D S Max, Photoshop, or Premier, they might need more than 8gb

After reading some more reviews its looking like the i5 750 is going to be the stellar product. Though lacking HT it does beat out the current i7 920 in most tests and it beats out the hot Q9550 as well as the phenom II x4. Plus couple that with the good price point of the p55 boards and you have the makings of a kick a$$ system.

In the HC review they oc'd the i5 750 to 4.0 and it appeared to be stable so with that said the potential for that cpu is really good. It does run cooler then its HT brother the 870 which is a nice trade off.

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sparker366:

After reading some more reviews its looking like the i5 750 is going to be the stellar product. Though lacking HT it does beat out the current i7 920 in most tests and it beats out the hot Q9550 as well as the phenom II x4. Plus couple that with the good price point of the p55 boards and you have the makings of a kick a$$ system.

In the HC review they oc'd the i5 750 to 4.0 and it appeared to be stable so with that said the potential for that cpu is really good. It does run cooler then its HT brother the 870 which is a nice trade off.

 

I think I misread something in the TH article: I thought it said the i5s aren't very OC friendly. Yet, I've seen a few times (I think even in the same article) talking about the same 4.0 OC you mentioned, sparker. Can anyone clear this up, please?

sparker366:

Uh do pictures lie. I don't think so. It would be really hard to photoshop all that. So yeah I feel that the 4.0 is real oc of that cpu

So it's no harder to OC the i5s than an i7 or Core 2?