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Lapped my heatsink and CPU

Last post 10-15-2009, 12:02 AM by toddtaco85. 49 replies.
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  •  08-14-2008, 11:49 AM 374248

    Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    I did this a few moths back but figured I'd share with you guys. :)

    So I lapped my CPU and heatsink. Enjoy the pictures. Results at the bottom of this post.

















    Both CPU and Heatsink were lapped first with 800 grit, during which the CPU was found to be concave as was expected. It was then fine-sanded with 1500 grit, and buffed to a shine without using any solvents; just a clean rag. The same was repeated for the heatsink. The heatsink was terribly coarse, and cutting lines could be seen clearly on the copper base.


    Entire project time was about 2 hours not including the shopping for sandpaper or taking the computer apart. A very very thin layer of Arctic Silver 5 was then applied onto the CPU alone before re-installation.

    Current stable overclock is at 3.5GHz (Core 2 Duo E6600), at an insane 1.472 volts (from 1.325V stock). This CPU doesn't overclock very well AT ALL, but it does once you crank the voltage.

    Initial tests with two instances of Prime95 before lapping both resulted in temperatures of 72 degrees C on both cores, reported via Intel TAT (Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, equivalent to CoreTemp).

    After lapping the CPU and heatsink, temperatures under full load dropped to 58 degrees C on both cores, which yields a temperature drop of an incredible 14 degrees C.

    I doubt anyone will do this, but if you're interested in having your CPU/heatsink lapped by me, send me a PM and I'll let you know what I'd charge to do it.

    Note: Since this writeup I've reduced my clock speed from 3.5 to 3.33 and lowered voltage to reduce power consumption. 


    Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.33GHz w/ Silverstone Nitrogon NT06 (both lapped)
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 690/1150
    ASUS P5K-E WiFi/AP Edition, 4GB DDR2-800
    Lian Li PC-7B w/ 2 Silverstone FM-121 + 1 FM-81
    LSI MegaRAID 320-2 w/ 18GB 15k, 74GB 15k, 3x147GB 10k RAID 5 (SCSI drives), 500GB SATA
    Creative X-Fi Platinum
    Enermax Aurora, Logitech MX1000
    Envision EN2028 20" 1600x1200 + Samsung 710N 17"
    Yamaha HTR-5940, 5x PolkAudio Monitor 40 bi-wired with 12AWG, PolkAudio CS1, Klipsch Sub10, Optical from X-Fi
  •  08-14-2008, 12:04 PM 374258 in reply to 374248

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Very nice.  14 degrees is well worth the effort.
  •  08-14-2008, 12:13 PM 374263 in reply to 374258

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Great job well looks like it was worth the time and effort. Yes

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  •  08-14-2008, 12:42 PM 374288 in reply to 374263

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    That reflective surface looks machine polished. AWESOME job.

    RAWR!
  •  09-13-2008, 11:21 PM 391584 in reply to 374248

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Very impressive.  For anyone thinking of following suit, I recommend you only buy OEM processors which do not have a manufacturer's warranty, and come with only  the retailers return policy of typically 15 to 30 days.

    Because the moment you start to lap your CPU a retail processor's warranty is void. 

    So, you can lap your heat sink right away -- though that also voids the manufacturer warranty, and the retailer doesn't want it back either...but it is cheaper than a high end processor..  But save the CPU until the retailer's return passes. You can do your overclocking and testing up until then.   Then have at it.  Just a suggested plan. 

     


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  •  09-23-2008, 11:32 AM 396208 in reply to 391584

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    i dont know what you did or what lapped is but id like to know!?

    Dual or Quad?
  •  09-28-2008, 12:18 PM 398369 in reply to 396208

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Well, if you look under those incredible photographs you will see his instructions for what he did.

    Lapping is grinding off the upper layer of the processor and heat sink contact areas to level them out and remove any pits and imperfections.  This creates a mirrored image.   

    This nets you a increase in thermal conductivity to lower your CPU's temperature and create a more uniform heat transfer across the surface area contacting the CPU and the heat sink.  You also use much less thermal compound to join the two together.

    You void the warranties from the manufacturers of the CPU (if any) and the heat sink.  As well as any chance at return to a vendor.  So you want to make sure they are fully functional or you do not care about the loss of money before you start.


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  •  09-29-2008, 3:39 AM 398617 in reply to 398369

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    cool 14c is def worth 2hrs work

  •  09-29-2008, 2:12 PM 398925 in reply to 398617

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    I was considering doing this myself. Now that I know that it will actually get noticeable results I might try it. It'll take me longer than two hours because I'll give the same quality that I do with optical prototypes at work. I have access to nice polishing stuff at work, such as 50,000 grit diamond powder and nice polishing pads.

    never go with a hippie to a second location...
  •  09-29-2008, 2:34 PM 398942 in reply to 398925

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    RocketScientist:
    I was considering doing this myself. Now that I know that it will actually get noticeable results I might try it. It'll take me longer than two hours because I'll give the same quality that I do with optical prototypes at work. I have access to nice polishing stuff at work, such as 50,000 grit diamond powder and nice polishing pads.

    Nice! Just make sure you're getting a flat surface, not just a shiny polished surface. The whole point of the laps against a sandpaper taped to glass is to get a perfectly flat surface, which is much more important that the polish.


    Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.33GHz w/ Silverstone Nitrogon NT06 (both lapped)
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 690/1150
    ASUS P5K-E WiFi/AP Edition, 4GB DDR2-800
    Lian Li PC-7B w/ 2 Silverstone FM-121 + 1 FM-81
    LSI MegaRAID 320-2 w/ 18GB 15k, 74GB 15k, 3x147GB 10k RAID 5 (SCSI drives), 500GB SATA
    Creative X-Fi Platinum
    Enermax Aurora, Logitech MX1000
    Envision EN2028 20" 1600x1200 + Samsung 710N 17"
    Yamaha HTR-5940, 5x PolkAudio Monitor 40 bi-wired with 12AWG, PolkAudio CS1, Klipsch Sub10, Optical from X-Fi
  •  09-29-2008, 3:53 PM 398992 in reply to 398942

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    XtremeRevolution:
    Nice! Just make sure you're getting a flat surface, not just a shiny polished surface. The whole point of the laps against a sandpaper taped to glass is to get a perfectly flat surface, which is much more important that the polish.

    I agree.  The surfaces being flat is much more important than a mirror finish.  I found the copper CPU cover to be very low in the center and/or very high on the edges.  It took me the bulk of my time to flatten it out with 400 grit sand paper.  If RocketScientist uses the type of equipment and polishing compound he stated then he may not even need thermal compound.

  •  09-29-2008, 8:40 PM 399173 in reply to 398992

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    A flat finish is very important. I have a lot of experience hand lapping/polishing and machine lapping/polishing small optical prototype, where flatness and polish quality are very important. I think I'd still use thermal compound.

    never go with a hippie to a second location...
  •  09-30-2008, 7:28 AM 399328 in reply to 399173

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    It would be interesting to see what your temperatures would be without thermal past and then with thermal paste.
  •  09-30-2008, 4:03 PM 399582 in reply to 399328

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    If I ever get around to doing this, I'll post my results. I don't really have a lot of motivation to do so because my e8400 runs pretty cool on just stock and I don't do much gaming...

    never go with a hippie to a second location...
  •  11-23-2008, 10:51 AM 428578 in reply to 374248

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Hey X.R.!

    I believe we talked about this some months ago, you've done a very nice job of it. 14 degrees,,,,, I haven't followed this forum and don't offer help much anymore because of all the naysayers and fanboys but do browse once in awhile. In another thread you reffered to this and I had to respond, a big kudos to you man, nice job.

    This should be stickied......


    Q6600@ 3.4 Underwater, P5E-VM HDMI, 8GB OCZ, EVGA 8800GT, PCP&C 610
  •  11-23-2008, 9:06 PM 428780 in reply to 428578

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    WoodButcher:

    Hey X.R.!

    I believe we talked about this some months ago, you've done a very nice job of it. 14 degrees,,,,, I haven't followed this forum and don't offer help much anymore because of all the naysayers and fanboys but do browse once in awhile. In another thread you reffered to this and I had to respond, a big kudos to you man, nice job.

    This should be stickied......

     

    I wouldn't mind updating this thread with more detailed information on exactly how the lapping was done if it would get stickied. 


    Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.33GHz w/ Silverstone Nitrogon NT06 (both lapped)
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 690/1150
    ASUS P5K-E WiFi/AP Edition, 4GB DDR2-800
    Lian Li PC-7B w/ 2 Silverstone FM-121 + 1 FM-81
    LSI MegaRAID 320-2 w/ 18GB 15k, 74GB 15k, 3x147GB 10k RAID 5 (SCSI drives), 500GB SATA
    Creative X-Fi Platinum
    Enermax Aurora, Logitech MX1000
    Envision EN2028 20" 1600x1200 + Samsung 710N 17"
    Yamaha HTR-5940, 5x PolkAudio Monitor 40 bi-wired with 12AWG, PolkAudio CS1, Klipsch Sub10, Optical from X-Fi
  •  11-23-2008, 9:14 PM 428785 in reply to 428780

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    XtremeRevolution:

    I wouldn't mind updating this thread with more detailed information on exactly how the lapping was done if it would get stickied. 

    If you keep it up to date I will sticky it for about 6 months if that is ok as long as you follow up on it and question people may have in the future.


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  •  11-23-2008, 9:14 PM 428786 in reply to 428780

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Do your thing, and send me a PM when ur ready for the sticky, and I'll take care of it.

    RAWR!
  •  11-23-2008, 9:16 PM 428789 in reply to 428786

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Or CAGG can do it Stick out tongue

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  •  11-23-2008, 9:32 PM 428803 in reply to 428789

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Sorry didn't wanna preempt, if U got it Tracer, I'll just kick back :)

    RAWR!
  •  11-23-2008, 10:04 PM 428824 in reply to 428803

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Na its ok CAGG we both had the same thought as well so either way depends on his reply and who gets to it no big deal.

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  •  11-23-2008, 10:18 PM 428831 in reply to 428824

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    KK, chores are not a "first" contest. :)

    RAWR!
  •  11-23-2008, 10:23 PM 428834 in reply to 428831

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Damit CAGG I was here first, LOL J/K  Stick out tongue

    Either way we'll get it one way or another he knows how to PM so what ever’s, clever, Trevor.


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  •  11-24-2008, 8:01 AM 429055 in reply to 428834

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    Including woodbutcher's helpful comments, I will be updating this thread by tomorrow night to include a "dummies" version procedure for lapping your heatsink and CPU. Wish I could do it now, but I'm at work and don't have as much time.

    Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.33GHz w/ Silverstone Nitrogon NT06 (both lapped)
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 690/1150
    ASUS P5K-E WiFi/AP Edition, 4GB DDR2-800
    Lian Li PC-7B w/ 2 Silverstone FM-121 + 1 FM-81
    LSI MegaRAID 320-2 w/ 18GB 15k, 74GB 15k, 3x147GB 10k RAID 5 (SCSI drives), 500GB SATA
    Creative X-Fi Platinum
    Enermax Aurora, Logitech MX1000
    Envision EN2028 20" 1600x1200 + Samsung 710N 17"
    Yamaha HTR-5940, 5x PolkAudio Monitor 40 bi-wired with 12AWG, PolkAudio CS1, Klipsch Sub10, Optical from X-Fi
  •  11-24-2008, 8:09 AM 429067 in reply to 429055

    Re: Lapped my heatsink and CPU

    OK just put a sticky on it for 6 months.


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