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rdaniels

Busy Busy... and I hate linux distros

Been gone from the egg for a while now.  School started back up and took more of my time than expected.  Which really sucks, cause I want to be here, and really wanted to be involved with the man pages project.  Looking now, it's coming along well from what I see in a glance.  I hope to still get to work on it, but I won't say I will.  I don't wanna be like "I'll help! Leave it to me!" and then drop off the face of the planet again.  I hate doing that.  Seems irresponsible to me, but that's kinda what I did.

 On the second topic... yeah, I hate distros.  I normally build my own systems from scratch, an ongoing diy project I've been working on for a while. But after fightin HAL for who knows how long, and then the big fight trying to get KDE4 to work, I figured I would try a distro again.  I looked around trying to find a distro concentrating on KDE.  Following the KDE mailing lists, it seems kubuntu and opensuse are the most popular there, so I figured that would be a good place to look.  I already know I don't like kubuntu, so I went with opensuse.

It installed easily enough.  It's pretty.  Lots to like.  Then I got hit by the reason I started lfs in the first place: I absolutely hate administration tools.  Package managers, system settings applications, whatever.  I hate them.  They all think they're smarter than I am.  I try to uninstall something, it pops up with 1/2 a dozen things it wants to uninstall due to dependency conflicts.  Idiocy.  There is no reason I need to install 1/2 a dozen gnome libraries just so I can have svg support in kde.  Ridiculous.  Then the X configuration utility.  It tries to tell me my nvidia 8800gt doesn't support 3d.  What!?  Are you stupid?  Wait, don't answer that question.  I already know the answer.  Then on top of that, my sound card doesn't work either.

 I think I'll actually keep opensuse installed and try to work through the issues in it, but most of the time, I'm much happier with a system that doesn't assume I don't know what I'm doing.

Published Friday, February 15, 2008 11:19 PM by rdaniels

Comments

 

Statesteel said:

Have you ever tried Gentoo?

February 16, 2008 7:23 AM
 

root said:

BASH. apt-get is your friend. Big Smile

February 16, 2008 10:11 AM
 

rdaniels said:

@Statesteel: Not yet.  I did try one or two other source distros.  I had no particular complaints about the dependency handling, but I  was frustrated by compilations failing left and right due to misconstructed buildscripts.  I probably will try Gentoo sooner or later, tho.

@root: bash is very much my friend, however apt-get  is most definitely not.  From my (admittedly limited) experience with package management utilities, I find yast & rpm to be highly irritating.  apt is my arch-enemy. ;)

I've also made a couple attempt to integrate slackware's package tools into my own builds.  Too much work, what with perl modules needing some file or another modified as part of installation, and too many packages not responding to DESTDIR.  Also, it always complained that my version of tar was too new, it wanted a version that was like 6 or 7 years old at the time.

February 16, 2008 12:08 PM
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About rdaniels

Mostly interested in computer software, especially operating systems and networking. I enjoy learning about the architecture, design, and protocols of these. I'm especially interested in Linux, which I love to use, but I also try to keep updated on happenings in the BSD and Solaris realms. Never been terribly interesting in hardware. The way I see it, hardware just sits there until software tells it to do something. Boring! (To those who like hardware, I'm grateful to you. Without people like you, my software wouldn't have anything to boss around!) Currently studying for a career in network adminstration, plan to also study programming and operating systems.

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