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The Diary of a Self-Proclaimed Genius

As creator of the famed EggXpert Prize Box, some consider me rather intelligent. I consider myself a genius.

The Dream Machine (Take 3)

Since I started college four long years ago, it's been a kind of unofficial tradition of mine to purchase a new computer each year.  At the end of my sophomore year, that tradition was amended into me building the computer myself.  In a couple of months, I'll be building my fifth computer/third custom rig.

Now, before you mistake this entry for yet another "rate my rig" post, let me assure you that nowhere will you find the entire specs of the machine I'm putting together.  You will find one spec here, however - the case.

This blog entry is going to serve a couple of purposes.  1 - to see if anyone actually reads it.  2 - to see if someone can help me find a better case.  I have my selection narrowed down to two...  Selections...

Apevia X-Jupiter S Type

This is the case I'm most likely going with - as of now, at least.  I used an Apevia case (back when they were still Aspire) for my first build, so they're a brand I trust.

The big hook with this case is of course its 250mm side fan, which is quickly becoming a trend.  I'm going high-end SLI with this computer, and I'm not totally sold on water cooling, so lots of air movement is a must.  One thing that's irksome, though, is that this fan is a smidge higher than I would like it, and would only blow directly onto the top card of my setup.

Also, because of the size of the cards, the case has to be full-tower.  I don't have enough room on my desk for a full-tower case (there's a shelf thingy that runs above it), so an unfortunate consequence is that it'll be located on the floor under the desk - it's a big desk, though, so that's not a huge deal.  It does need to be taken into account as far as the configuration of the case goes, though.

This case also has mounting space for a top 120mm fan.  In the world of air cooling, a top exhaust fan is the absolute best thing you can have.

The "front" I/O ports (USB, audio) for this case are located on the top, as are the power/IDE lights.  Since it'll be on the floor, this is a big plus.

It has a couple of temperature sensors with a swanky blue-backlit LCD display, which is nothing decision impacting.  However, it also includes a copule of nice looking fan controllers, which, for the monstrosity on the side, is a must.  Yes, I know that the bigger fan can move more air at a slower speed (and therefore with less noise), but I still want to be able to set it myself.  I plan on using the other controller for the top fan, and letting the motherboard handle the other three (one in front, two in back).

XClio Windtunnel Advanced

This guy has two 250mm fans on the side, blowing directly onto the graphics cards.  Each fan is hooked up to a controller on the front side of the fan housing.

There's also a 200mm fan on the top of the case, which is great.  A controller is also included for that fan, but it's on a PCI slot bracket, which kind've annoys me.

XClio is a brand I'd never heard of until I started case shopping.  They apparently don't have the best rapport as far as documentation goes, either, but then again, it's a computer case...

The thing that really turns me off to this case is the location of the USB/audio ports.  They're located low on the right side of the case, just behind the front panel.  Now, let's think this through...  The left side of the case will be left away from any surfaces to let the fans suck in air, so which side of the case is likely to be butted up against a desk/cabinet?  Also, seeing as how the case will be on the floor, the ports' lower positioning is rather inconvenient.

In short, compared to the Apevia case, the side fan positioning is a big turn on, but the controller for the top fan and the location of the USB/audio ports is a turn off.

Alright, my challenge to the readers.  See if you can find me a case that has the best of both worlds.  Necessary parameters are that it be full-tower, that it have a large side fan, and that it have front fan controllers for all larger than normal (> 120mm) fans.  A top exhaust fan isn't absolutely necessary, but it's definitely a deciding factor.

Thanks!

Published Friday, June 27, 2008 7:53 PM by cg49me

Comments

 

gamingoodz said:

Thats weird that your thinking about using that Xclio Windtunnel case because I just ordered one yesturday from Newegg.

I will be doing my first gaming / multimedia SLI pc build soon here, I should have the case today or tomarrow so I can start.

I don't have the CPU, Mobo Or second GPU yet but I figured while Im waiting I can use this case for my PC I got now which is EXTREMELY cramped with a 8800GT and two HDD's In a small a** Acer midtower.

I will be building my Pc With two 8800GT GPU's in SLI and I'm thinking about going with Windows Vista 64 instead of 32 I'm just worried about the number of software compatible with a 64bit os

I will let you know how the case is when I get it today or tomarrow and take some pictures with my current hardware in it so you can get an idea of how big it is ect.

I personally would get the Windtunnel (and I did) Because Every review i read on it was a very good one and the airflow looks un matched.

July 2, 2008 5:14 AM
 

cg49me said:

The positioning of the USB ports just plain sucks, though.  I mean, they'll be utterly useless to me.  I agree that it'll have better airflow, though.

I would make the switch to 64 bit myself (XP albeit - I'm not a fan of Vista), but I get McAfee antivirus free from school, and it only features 32 bit support.  For all other things, though, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how many things have 64 bit support.

July 2, 2008 6:22 AM
 

Gametech said:

If I were building a "dream" machine, I'd go with a Cooler Master Cosmos case. They are beautiful and have top rated features.

PC gamer gave it editor's choice and some of the highest marks in a review of several new cases.

I have found the high-end Thermaltake cases to be really good quality. I have a Tt Aguilia Case and it has worked great for me going on 3 years now.

Good luck with your build

July 9, 2008 11:07 AM
 

Capt. Insane said:

NZXT Zero. Period. You can't go wrong with seven, that's right 7, 120mm fans (plus there's an 80mm). It cools everything like whoa. The front mounted audio, usb, etc are easy to reach, especially if you like keeping your case on a desk. It's a full tower so you'll have lots of room for  building. The only downside is the dust inhalation. If your room is dusty, consider putting an air purifier or two near this bad boy. Otherwise, it'll be great. I'd recommend cleaning out the dust once a month minumum, if you can. But you will not regret this case. It's tool-less, too!

July 9, 2008 4:01 PM
 

Speeder said:

How odd. I was thinking about using the Windtunnel in a rig I'm about to start building.

July 9, 2008 9:20 PM
 

cg49me said:

The Cosmos...  Is pretty...  It's also pretty expensive.  I will investigate it further - nice pick!  The only thing that annoys me it that it doesn't have a built-in fan controller.

I actually eyeballed the Cooler Master Stacker 830 (the one with the vented front door), and besides the $100 more expensiveness, the only thing that annoys me is again, the lack of built-in fan controllers.

I checked out the NZXT Zero, and while it is sweet looking, there are, you guessed it, no fan controllers, and the I/O ports are inconveniently located, as with the Windtunnel.

Thanks for the suggestions - keep them coming!

July 10, 2008 2:05 PM
 

Capt. Insane said:

You don't need fan controllers on the Zero. The fans all run at the same speed, which generates enough cooling power to keep the case around 30 degrees C (and I've got a Q6600 and two 8600GTs in SLI) or less. The I/O ports aren't as inconvenient as you might think, really. If the case is to the left of your desk, all you do is reach down and plug something in. Are you really that fat or lazy that you can't bend over to plug something in? And even if you are, it's kind of dumb to not buy such a good case for that reason.

July 11, 2008 4:17 AM
 

StalkingHippo said:

I'd also consider a Antec Twelve Hundred, with 5 120mm fans, and a 200mm fan at the top, it should provide enough cooling for your components. If that's not enough, you can also add 2 more 120mm fans, one at the side and another in a HDD cage for a windtunnel effect.

(I would use the antec 120mm tricool fans that have a 3 speed switch if you were to buy additional fans, they work really well!) Also all fans that come with the twelve hundred, have fan controllers, including the 200mm.

Everything is top notch, build quality, storage space (12 drive bays!), and looks pretty good (in my opinion). It also comes with an awesome blue led effect, giving your case soem 'style'. The only gripe for me with this case is its price, $215 (but newegg has free shipping).

I would seriously recommend you the antec twelve hundred to your list as it is a fantastic case that has almost anything a user would need.

-Stalking Hippo

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July 11, 2008 5:28 AM
 

gamingoodz said:

Well I got My Xclio Windtunnel and the Great Power 700W PSU that can with the combo deal and I must say I absolutely love this case! the side fans are amazingly quite and you can hear the HDD over the two huge side fans. The case also comes with a temp sensor that I put under my Mobo Next to where the cpu is and it never reads above 40c (on my amd 4200+)

Picture of case compared to my acer Case: http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2382/1000873zo9.jpg

Heres an idea of how BIG the fans are: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8375/1000878up4.jpg

There is Tons of room in this case BUT there is one problem with it the freakin PSU mounting is Upside down! So if you have a psu that has a fan on the top it will blow into the case instead of out the top.

July 11, 2008 7:43 PM
 

cg49me said:

Thank you for the "lovely" comments, Insane...

First off, I want the controllers for noise issues.  A block of 120mm fans running full tilt all the time?  They'd be able to hear it down the street...

Secondly, because of where I plan on putting the case, the right side will be completely inaccessible - it'll be up against a cabinet.  Yes, I could swivel the case out every time I want to use the ports, but why would I do that if I can buy a case for the same price that has them right in front of my face, and has my precious controllers?

The Antec 1200 is nice, but I'd rather have an analog controller instead of a switch.  And yes, the price is more than the X-Jupiter.

Thanks for the pics, ggoodz!  I hope your build turns out great!

July 12, 2008 12:01 PM
 

Capt. Insane said:

I have a block of 120mm fans running full tilt, and I can't hear them unless I'm sitting right  next to it. No joke; they're ultra silent fans, the stock ones.

July 14, 2008 3:38 PM
 

Gametech said:

Have you considered just purchasing a drive bay fan controller? There are several models that look really nice and match just about any color. I agree it would be best to have one with the case but as Capt. Insane put it, I 'd hate for you to pass up a great case just because of the lack of a fan controller.

The prices are higher for the Cosmos but in my opinion you can't get the same quality from other "cheaper" manufacturers. But of course this is a matter of opinion.

July 15, 2008 7:01 AM
 

gamingoodz said:

Hey there Just checkin in to see if you decided on what case you want to get yet?

I know the cosmos cases are amazing cases but the best are also expensive, if you have the money go for the top of the line cosmos s I think it is.

But for me I know the Windtunnel is working extremely well and I absolutely love it, I will be getting the rest of the parts to put the whole Computer together tomorrow (Or today considering its 12:11am) And I can't wait to test everything out. This will be my first build and I didnt want to go skimpy on it which is why I got the Windtunnel. Its not the best but Its a very good case. If I have the money and I was doing a really serious high end build I would get the cosmos S case.

anyway check out my forum at that link, I need to get some mebers :)

I will have the site that goes with that forum up soon I had to restart it all over from scratch when I switched servers I my data bases got messed up.

July 15, 2008 9:13 PM
 

gamingoodz said:

hmm it didnt post the url.... i put it in the url space.. its: http://www.gamingoodz.com/phpBB3/

July 15, 2008 9:14 PM
 

cg49me said:

Way to shamelessly advertise, ggoodz...  :rolleyes:

I'm still pretty set on the X-Jupiter.  I'm atill looking around though, and I won't be laying any money out for a month yet, so things aren't solid.

I was admiring the Thermaltake Armor+ cases yesterday...

I know that I could add a front panel controller, and even USB/audio ports.  I had that on my first build, though, and I always thought it looked kind've gaudy.

July 16, 2008 11:51 AM
 

Capt. Insane said:

You could always build your own case and, therefore, customize it however you want. I'm thinking of doing that, but I'm not sure the direction to go.

And as for shameless advertising, what else could be expected from asking for part recommendations?

July 17, 2008 10:20 AM
 

Capt. Insane said:

Oh, and I apologize if any of my previous comments were a little harsh or rude; I was trying to make a point, but didn't do it in the proper fashion.

July 17, 2008 10:21 AM
 

cg49me said:

It's all good.  :)

I still haven't totally made up my mind, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the X-Jupiter.  I was about sold on a Thermaltake Armor Plus, but since I wanted everything to be "standard" I wanted Thermaltake case fans and a Thermaltake CPU cooler...  I'm wierd like that.

Anyway, the case fans were four instead of three pin, and the CPU cooler had no control line.  Not to mention the $60 more the case was going to cost over the Apevia one, plus I was going to have to buy a fan controller for the side fan.  It just wasn't worth it to me.

I won't be making any purchases for a month yet - the search continues...

July 18, 2008 9:13 PM
 

cg49me said:

I've been researching the Antec 1200 more, and it just rose its way to the top of my list.

July 21, 2008 11:49 AM
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